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Military Aviation => Historical Military Aircraft => Topic started by: smudge on February 16, 2014, 09:50:06 PM

Title: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: smudge on February 16, 2014, 09:50:06 PM
I was reading a 1988 copy of Air Enthusiast today, out in the garden enjoying the Sunshine.  And I was surprised to find this photo!  Recognise that building?

The caption reads:

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An MD.450B of the Patrouille de France photographed at Aldergrove, NI, in June 1956 ( EC II/4 La Fayette ).

Sadly no explanation of why it was here, but there is a USAF a/c in the background that looks like it might be a T-33.



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Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: smudge on February 16, 2014, 09:56:30 PM
Aha!  Found a smaller but uncropped version here:

http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/AI/AI58-7/31-5.jpg (http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/AI/AI58-7/31-5.jpg)

showing the buzz number on the USAF  a/c to be TR-360, a T-33.
Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: Angry Turnip on February 16, 2014, 10:14:58 PM
Interesting,but well before my time.
Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: smudge on February 16, 2014, 10:53:30 PM
I think it may have been a Families Day, but whilst searching the Flight archive for Aldergrove in 1956 I discovered that the Met Flight was still flying Halifaxes in that year!

 :o


http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1956/1956%20-%200973.html?search=aldergrove (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1956/1956%20-%200973.html?search=aldergrove)


Meanwhile, on the same page, test flying of the B-52 and C-130 continues.  What a strange era of contrasts that was!
Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: Dr Draken on February 17, 2014, 11:12:04 AM
Sadly no mention of the Patrouille de France, or a T-33, but here's the cover from the Aldergrove RAF At Home, 1956 Air Display

The day started with an RAF Police dog display and ended with a demonstration by the crash & rescue team.
Aircraft listed as participating in the Flying display:

Vampires (502 Squadron)
Lincoln
Chipmunks (QUAS)
Gannets (formation flypast)
Meteor
Provost
Vampire (aerobatics)
Shackletons (formation flypast)
Valiant
Sunderland
Seamew
Hunter
Swift
Canberra

Hastings, Anson, and Dragonfly are also listed in the "Some of the aircraft you will see today" section.

If that's got you in the mood and you haven't watched it this is fantastic stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D07cEGnWDvE



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Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: smudge on February 17, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
Thanks Dr D, I enjoyed that immensely!  The sound of the Hasting was amazing, beautiful sleeve-valved burble.

Edit: I also love the phrase 'These aircraft are equipped with afterburners.".  Sounds so futuristic!
Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: Sneaky_Nikon on February 17, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
Edit: I also love the phrase 'These aircraft are equipped with afterburners.".  Sounds so futuristic!

"Reheat" is so much more civilised!   

Your sadness level may be measured in whether or not you noted the fact that chocolate brown tentage was still in use in the sixties. There are worse affliction than aviation nerdery.

Super video (or should that be film?) I actually enjoyed the Chippies!
Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: Merlin on February 17, 2014, 10:10:01 PM
Now that's an airshow line-up worthy of praise  ;D

Amazing how relaxed it all was given it was Northern Ireland in the 60's; no heavy security, people able to mingle with the aircraft, no PA drowning out the sound of the planes and no stalls blocking the view of the flight line.

That was an airshow where you went to watch airplanes and nothing else.

Where did it all go wrong?  :'(

Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell what part of the airfield this was on? If I'm reading Google Maps correctly it looks to be on the military side of the airfield near the 07/17 crossover (based on the control tower featured in the film).
Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: Angry Turnip on February 17, 2014, 11:01:04 PM
What a brilliant film and line up-taken from the military side,south of the tower at the large apron/hardstand.

Noise of the Shackelton and Lightening is fantastic-those chutes dropped from the Hasting s fell rather rapidly,good job it was just a demo.

Thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: RNASMU on February 19, 2014, 11:29:16 PM
Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell what part of the airfield this was on? If I'm reading Google Maps correctly it looks to be on the military side of the airfield near the 07/17 crossover (based on the control tower featured in the film).

Declan, I remember they were held on the military side of the airfield, exact location I'm not sure, they were great days out. No security in those days.
Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: Paultojo on March 01, 2014, 12:40:10 PM
Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell what part of the airfield this was on? If I'm reading Google Maps correctly it looks to be on the military side of the airfield near the 07/17 crossover (based on the control tower featured in the film).

Declan, I remember they were held on the military side of the airfield, exact location I'm not sure, they were great days out. No security in those days.

By the looks of it they are taken from Echo taxiway leading to pan 10 and 11 behind the tower where the VC-10s and A330s park

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Title: Re: PdF Ouragan at Aldergrove in 1956
Post by: smudge on November 21, 2017, 05:20:15 PM
Well this is an old thread but I might have stumbled on the solution.

It appears that the PdF were at the Sydenham display with their Ouragans in 1954; seems possible that they returned in subsequent years?  And basing at Aldergrove would be logical.

As an aside back in those days the PdF didn't have a standing force, it rotated through the Escadres de Chasse who provided the aircraft.  Pilots with the requisite skills were often nabbed from other units.

Looks like the original image has been deleted, I'll do a dirty phone-snap of the source again.