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Re: Discussion - Posting Mil Movements
« on: May 05, 2016, 01:28:04 PM »
I have a movement might be of interest but don't want to post until certain of our rule. I have permission to pass the information on. If I can where may I post now please?


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Re: Re: Discussion - Posting Mil Movements
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2016, 08:35:45 PM »
I have a movement might be of interest but don't want to post until certain of our rule. I have permission to pass the information on. If I can where may I post now please?


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Yes i too had a movement of interest and the fact that anyone with an internet connection and some knowledge of where to look could easily have seen what was heading our way i think to put further restrictions (current rules accepted) on these kind of movements is becoming a bit draconian to be fair. Some of us like myself arent really that interested in the latest easyjet paint scheme and with so many rules in place for military activity find it difficult to get involved with the forum. Dont get me wrong i understand the sensitive nature of certain movements and the approprate time frames for posting any info but dont ruin the military side of things completely. Just my two cents worth and no disrespect intended guys.

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Re: Re: Discussion - Posting Mil Movements
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2016, 09:32:24 PM »
I have a movement might be of interest but don't want to post until certain of our rule. I have permission to pass the information on. If I can where may I post now please?


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Yes i too had a movement of interest and the fact that anyone with an internet connection and some knowledge of where to look could easily have seen what was heading our way i think to put further restrictions (current rules accepted) on these kind of movements is becoming a bit draconian to be fair. Some of us like myself arent really that interested in the latest easyjet paint scheme and with so many rules in place for military activity find it difficult to get involved with the forum. Dont get me wrong i understand the sensitive nature of certain movements and the approprate time frames for posting any info but dont ruin the military side of things completely. Just my two cents worth and no disrespect intended guys.


I don't agree with you. The rules are not draconian at all. They're very much in line with any other forum and how military movements are handled. As I'm sure you'll agree, certain things shouldn't be posted on a public billboard, there should be some sort of barrier between this information and the general public. The fact that Military Movements are not posted in a 100% public manner simply means only members of the forum may view it. As you say, anybody with an internet connection can view posts on a website, however, only those with a genuine interest should have access to more sensitive information. It's not hard to see the information if you really want to - become a registered member of the forum and follow the agreed upon guidelines. The guidelines are in place for EVERYONE'S enjoyment and benefit.

While the guidelines above are currently being reviewed, it doesn't mean they are going to be increased, or that it is going to be made more difficult to view movements, there will simply be a more efficient, or different procedure on how to view them, or share them. This is being reviewed and is not yet confirmed. We, the moderators, do not intend to 'ruin the military side' of the forum. Indeed, we are only acting in the best nature of the forum. We have to do what is required of us, as moderators, to run the forum in a manner that acts in the best interests of all members.
 

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Re: Re: Discussion - Posting Mil Movements
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2016, 10:38:05 AM »
I have a movement might be of interest but don't want to post until certain of our rule. I have permission to pass the information on. If I can where may I post now please?


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Yes i too had a movement of interest and the fact that anyone with an internet connection and some knowledge of where to look could easily have seen what was heading our way i think to put further restrictions (current rules accepted) on these kind of movements is becoming a bit draconian to be fair. Some of us like myself arent really that interested in the latest easyjet paint scheme and with so many rules in place for military activity find it difficult to get involved with the forum. Dont get me wrong i understand the sensitive nature of certain movements and the approprate time frames for posting any info but dont ruin the military side of things completely. Just my two cents worth and no disrespect intended guys.


I don't agree with you. The rules are not draconian at all. They're very much in line with any other forum and how military movements are handled. As I'm sure you'll agree, certain things shouldn't be posted on a public billboard, there should be some sort of barrier between this information and the general public. The fact that Military Movements are not posted in a 100% public manner simply means only members of the forum may view it. As you say, anybody with an internet connection can view posts on a website, however, only those with a genuine interest should have access to more sensitive information. It's not hard to see the information if you really want to - become a registered member of the forum and follow the agreed upon guidelines. The guidelines are in place for EVERYONE'S enjoyment and benefit.

While the guidelines above are currently being reviewed, it doesn't mean they are going to be increased, or that it is going to be made more difficult to view movements, there will simply be a more efficient, or different procedure on how to view them, or share them. This is being reviewed and is not yet confirmed. We, the moderators, do not intend to 'ruin the military side' of the forum. Indeed, we are only acting in the best nature of the forum. We have to do what is required of us, as moderators, to run the forum in a manner that acts in the best interests of all members.
hi breney. Just to clarify, im not suggesting that military movements should be public and having a military backround myself for 22 years im more than aware of the sensitive nature. What ive said is that posts that ive seen by members have actually respected the rules that exist already and that the information is all ready in the public domain on other sites etc. What you and the other moderators should take into account is that not every aviation fan is particulary interested in civil traffic and a good forum covers all areas of interest all be it with some rules, but dont make the rules so tight that nothing gets posted for fear of being repremanded. That is what i meant by draconian. Dont take my comments as an attack as thats not whats intended, its simply my point of view as i dont want to see the military side ruined. Thats not to say thats going to happen, but i do belive a good forum is also about members points of view
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Re: Re: Discussion - Posting Mil Movements
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2016, 11:35:43 AM »
Current restrictions should give enough protection to sensitive details. The important bit is following the rules on releasing such information.

I don't know if this site has an alert option but at this point when rules are being discussed, could I ask if it's possible to launch a Twitter feed? I'm not totally au fait with Twitter but it would have to be restricted to members only, not searchable publicly and "follow" requests would not be accepted - access controlled exclusively from this site.

For those of us who aren't able to follow the site continuously, a tweet advising us to check the forum for visitor details, would be a great help. The thought occurred to me yesterday as I heard Marham74 screech towards Larne. Got the full details from the site after it had gone. Would be nice to have a live heads up.

Also have to say everyone does a great job in dishing out the visitor info in the first place.

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Re: Re: Discussion - Posting Mil Movements
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2016, 11:55:01 AM »
I agree with murphology, if there is an option for setting up a twitter feed, I would love to be join it. I constantly switch on notifications for different users on twitter and it I believe it would be quicker to post movements and photos. Even if it was used just for military for example.

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Re: Discussion - Posting Mil Movements
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2016, 01:12:59 PM »
Current restrictions should give enough protection to sensitive details. The important bit is following the rules on releasing such information.

I don't know if this site has an alert option but at this point when rules are being discussed, could I ask if it's possible to launch a Twitter feed? I'm not totally au fait with Twitter but it would have to be restricted to members only, not searchable publicly and "follow" requests would not be accepted - access controlled exclusively from this site.

For those of us who aren't able to follow the site continuously, a tweet advising us to check the forum for visitor details, would be a great help. The thought occurred to me yesterday as I heard Marham74 screech towards Larne. Got the full details from the site after it had gone. Would be nice to have a live heads up.

Also have to say everyone does a great job in dishing out the visitor info in the first place.


Hi Murphology,
To cut a long story short, at present the only restriction on accessing the Military Movements board is that you have to be a member of this forum, which I'm sure you'll agree is not much of a restriction at all.

To that end the forum owner, as is his right, is looking at ways of, on the one hand, installing better protection concerning military aircraft movements, while at the same time ensuring that dedicated aviation enthusiasts continue to have access to pertinent information. This forum has become more and more popular and reliable over the last few years thanks to it members and it is a status we want to maintain and improve on.

The last thing anyone wants is for there to be an 'incident' involving a military aircraft and for it to emerge that the perpetrator got their information from this site. Given recent events in England that is not so far-fetched as you might imagine.

As regards notification of visitor details, there is already a facility for you to be notified, via email, when a new post is made to one of the boards. This is done by viewing the relevant board/thread and selecting the NOTIFY button at the bottom of the screen. The email identifies the subject of the post and includes a link to the forum. This is one of the reasons why we ask anyone starting a new thread to be as descriptive as possible regarding the thread title. "Military Aircraft, BFS" may not get your attention but "Typhoon @ BFS, 6/5/16" might.
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Re: Discussion - Posting Mil Movements
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2016, 01:29:50 PM »
Thanks Merlin, only took me 7 years to find the notify button!


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