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Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« on: December 13, 2018, 01:58:10 AM »
Airwaves Portrush will take place on the 31st August & 1st September 2019

https://www.causewaycoastandglens.gov.uk/uploads/general/181211_Item_9_Tourism_and_Recreation_Managed_Events.pdf

It does not make for great reading though.

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2018, 09:33:22 AM »
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The Northern Ireland airport runway infrastructure is not able to accommodate a range of fast jets that could otherwise perform at Airwaves (if budget was available). Specifically in the absence of the necessary runway cable or arresting gear, display teams from other European countries are unable to operate in Northern Ireland.


Does Baldonnel have runway cable or arresting gear? I'll stand to be corrected but I don't think so yet it can accommodate the Viggen, Draken, Tranchant Jet Team (Fouga jets), Frecce Tricolor, Patrouille Suisse display team etc. Aldergrove, again to my knowledge, doesn't have arresting gear yet can accomodate the Reds, Tornados and Typhoons. While I know it's a mammoth task organising this show and there is the money constraints I think this is a very lame excuse.

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2018, 11:19:02 AM »
Bal doesn't have arrestor but is within range of Valley

However most Euro display teams don't have aircraft with emergency hooks anyway so it's still rather a lame excuse.  Midnight Hawks, Frecce, PdF, Aguilla all.come to mind with little effort.

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2018, 12:23:26 PM »
To be honest I half expected the arrestor gear thing would come up again this year,after the claim was made that the Swiss F-18 required this for it`s display regulations.
I think we all know here,that this is nonsense for most European fast jets,and certainly the display teams which are mainly jet trainers.

Aldergrove is more than able to deal with fastjets,despite it not having arrestor gear,as mentioned earlier there isn`t that many European fast jets equipped with a hook in any case,some like the Dutch F-16 use a chute to add braking.
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2018, 12:06:03 AM »
Didnít the Spanish F18 use Dublin airport for Bray airshow?

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2018, 03:59:12 PM »
Yes, they used Dublin Int and Baldonnel. However, the regulation is apparently that the airfield must be within 100nm of the display location so even if they had a cable it would be out of range.

Its a weird one which I don't understand myself.

Without sounding critical... It's lazy to already be blaming the Red Arrows tour. There is plenty more that can be booked. The Reds are a great display yes,but I never understood this mentality that a show must have the Reds to be good.

Maybe they should have a theme for 2019. Warbirds on Saturday, Aerobatics on Sunday? Plenty of great civilian displays out there.

A show with Sally B, BBMF, Blenheim and the DC3 from the Swiss? That would have me up in a heartbeat!
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2018, 07:31:59 PM »
Didnít the Spanish F18 use Dublin airport for Bray airshow?

Indeed they did,checkout a local spotter getting a wee bit over excited ---warning !!! Language is a bit rough if easily offended...https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=C3Ozd_1520202817

The Swiss F-18 Hornet is the only European Fighter Display I am aware of that supposedly insists on an arresting gear being available as part of it`s display regulations.
So in effect it is only relevant if the Portrush organisers were considering booking it.
Which other European fast jets have an arrestor hook fitted,the only one`s that springs to mind is the Swiss F-5E Tiger II`s,and the French Navy Rafale.I can`t think of others of the top of my head.

All sounds rather negative.
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2018, 04:50:13 PM »
Show got the go ahead from the council last night.

Kirkcaldy, who are possibly looking to host the Scottish Airshow in 2019,are looking to share aircraft with Portrush also as per usual that weekend according to Fife Today a while ago.
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2018, 10:11:42 PM »
I have also seen reports that the Scottish 2019 show might head North up the coast from Ayr to Irvine.Just north of Gailes Links Golf Course.
There is a long straight beach there,with minimal buildings at the coastline,there is an industrial estate well back from the bay (car parking),and the town has rail links which would be useful.
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 02:37:47 PM »

Which other European fast jets have an arrestor hook fitted,

I think all F-16s have them. Although that has no bearing on the display issue.
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 03:14:03 PM »

Which other European fast jets have an arrestor hook fitted,

I think all F-16s have them. Although that has no bearing on the display issue.

Yes, Belgian F-16 needs one, or it would have been at Portrush 2017. It's their own operating rules.
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2019, 05:21:18 PM »
Catalina is booked for Portrush. Based at Derry again. Due in on 30th August.

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30 August 2019 - 01 September 2019
Flight Type:    Transit & Display
From:    Duxford - Derry -- 30 August 2019 - 09:00 (all times local)
To:    Derry - Duxford -- 01 September 2019 - 15:00 (all times local)
Display Slot:    tbc

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2019, 07:11:37 PM »
They are going to have to get different aircraft this year and not the same stuff. With no Red Arrows they will have to get something different that will bring the crowds up to Portrush.

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2019, 09:26:13 PM »
I could see the Blades ending up being the replacement for the Reds. Would be nice to see the Viggen/Draken assuming they are allowed to display again in UK along with the Vampires and Strikemaster pair.

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2019, 03:14:10 PM »
When it comes to teams,jets would tend to pull more people I think.Perhaps the Breitling Jet Team for example-they displayed at Bangor a good few years back.

Problem is the Airwaves organisers would have had to make approaches for an alternative to the Red Arrows as soon as their US/Canada Tour was announced,other airshows will be doing the same thing as well,or in some cases have cancelled their shows completely.

I truly hope to be proved wrong,I hope they can pull together a decent lineup with some new displays or aircraft we haven`t seen there,but I suspect Airwaves will be the same old thing;soggy,cold and disappointing.
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2019, 10:12:54 PM »
Im looking forward to what they come up with.
Its gotta be a jet imo and given that there are so few around I cant imagine anything that hasnt been mentioned on this forum before.

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2019, 10:47:57 PM »
Sadly it looks like no Swiss classic formation with the DC3 and 3 Beech 18s. They are booked elsewhere in Europe on Portrush weekend. It was the standout display in 2018 for me.

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2019, 02:26:55 PM »
Wildcat aerobatics have a listing on their website for both days

https://www.wildcataerobatics.com/display-calendar

Edit - Confirmed by Portrush
Edit 2: No Silver wings in 2019
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2019, 01:59:57 PM »
Great news! the Tucano will be at Portrush both days!

Final ever NI display with the Tucano going into retirement at the end of the year :)

http://www.air-shows.org.uk/2019/04/airshow-news-royal-air-force-shorts-tucano-t1-display-dates-2019/

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2019, 06:19:50 PM »
RAF Tutor confirmed both days

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2019, 07:09:11 PM »
I would be interested to see the Grob 120TP Prefect instead of the Tutor.

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2019, 07:11:02 PM »
The Prefect was originally on the 2019 display application and the Tutor wasn't.

Seems RAF are keeping with the Tutor for this year.

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2019, 12:52:28 PM »
No Typhoon for Portrush or anywhere in Ireland

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Re: Airwaves Portrush 2019 - 31st Aug/1st Sept
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2019, 05:40:24 PM »
OV-10 Bronco down for Portrush on both days.
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