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Drones force Gatwick to close
« on: December 20, 2018, 12:06:49 PM »
Major problems at Gatwick airport due to drones being flown over the airfield.

More here from BBC News....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754

I know that drones controller handsets operate on just a few radio frequencies,so it should be possible to jam these to prevent the controller from working,thus the drone goes no-where.
I have read that some airshows and other airfields have used this method to stop drone incursions,but it maybe something the military have and isn`t available to airport operators-I would expect that will change sooner rather than later.
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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2018, 12:32:44 PM »
With modern technology, it should be easy to jam a drone over an open area like an airfield and cause it to crash.  A few bits of debris for authorities to lift and the idiot controlling it is out of pocket AND cannot continue to misuse it!

Win Win for everyone, some are idiotic enough to come forward and try to report their 'loss' LOL

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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 02:08:49 PM »
I've seen a few people saying its possibly environmental protesters.

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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 04:13:35 PM »
Possibly, maybe, could be...  All just conjecture at present.  Despite all the news media there we haven't had a single definitive photo of these drones let alone know who is responsible.  It'll all probably just fade-out and we'll never know what happened.

If you really wanted to disrupt air transport wouldn't you 'attack' several airports at once? 

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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 04:39:26 PM »
I'm intrigued to find out exactly what the 'drone' is.  I've a feeling it's something a deal chunkier than your average quadcopter.
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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 05:34:26 PM »
I'm intrigued to find out exactly what the 'drone' is.  I've a feeling it's something a deal chunkier than your average quadcopter.

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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2018, 08:12:24 PM »
The question I keep asking is why Gatwick as opposed to Heathrow?
Shutting down Heathrow would have a far bigger impact compared to Gatwick.
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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 08:20:01 PM »
The question I  keep asking is why Gatwick as opposed to Heathrow?
Shutting down Heathrow would have a far bigger impact compared to Gatwick.

Maybe someone is just trying to stop the In-Laws visiting over Christmas? ;D

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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 08:22:20 PM »
The question I  keep asking is why Gatwick as opposed to Heathrow?
Shutting down Heathrow would have a far bigger impact compared to Gatwick.

Don't think I'm talking out of turn when I say that one of the working assumptions is that the 'pilot' is a disgruntled member of staff.
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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 10:14:47 PM »
Sounds like a job for the Beechcraft Shadow R1 or one of the other "specials".I am surprised this hasn`t been dealt with sooner.
Maybe the MOD don`t want it public what special assets they have,but there is bound to be something available to jam the drone control handset from transmitting,or blocking the signal.

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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 10:48:16 PM »
Id watch out for our russian neighbours with this.

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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2018, 10:49:54 PM »
Sounds like a job for the Beechcraft Shadow R1 or one of the other "specials".I am surprised this hasn`t been dealt with sooner.
Maybe the MOD don`t want it public what special assets they have,but there is bound to be something available to jam the drone control handset from transmitting,or blocking the signal.
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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2018, 01:13:59 AM »
Sounds like a job for the Beechcraft Shadow R1 or one of the other "specials".I am surprised this hasn`t been dealt with sooner.
Maybe the MOD don`t want it public what special assets they have,but there is bound to be something available to jam the drone control handset from transmitting,or blocking the signal.

I suspect if it was a regular, off-the-shelf device, it would have been dealt with long ago. Almost all of these are vulnerable to electronic hijack. I'm not talking about any specialist military stuff. This has been discussed in this forum. See link below.

In the link, Furryforest mentioned that Game Of Thrones already operate countermeasures on their filming sets. I'd be surprised if Gatwick hasn't access to something better.

Also, if I was the perp, I'd have the thing flying on pre-determined GPS guided routes. Jamming wouldn't be possible. I wouldn't transmit anything that would give the authorities a location fix on me. There's a saying, "The quieter you are, the more you hear". It is quite possible that the perp isn't even in the country and is using mobile/ 4G to launch.

Finally, This has been going on for over 24 hours. I assume that there is a number of these and they are being launched remotely as and when the batteries run out. So even if one is shot down, there'll be another launched a couple of hours later. The picture on the BBC showed men with rifles standing in front of a BMW X5. I wonder if any have been shot down already. If not, I wonder how fast moving they are?

http://www.niaviation.co.uk/index.php?topic=23697.msg133041#msg133041

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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2018, 05:48:07 PM »
It's back!

Gatwick closed again.
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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2018, 06:27:46 PM »
Time to hit the SAS button :-)

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Re: Drones force Gatwick to close
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2018, 08:24:22 PM »
Open again.