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Title: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on March 12, 2010, 09:17:06 AM
Thought I'd create a new post now that the shows back on. If you hear of any additions to the line-up let me know and I'll update this post.

Current line-up
Red Arrows (Saturday Only)
Tucano (Saturday Only)
Hawk
BBMF Dakota (Saturday Only)
Eurofighter
Jet Provost
Royal Aircraft Factory SE5a
Twister Duo
Vans RV7
Bucker Jungman
Messerschmitt 108
Supermarine Spitfire
Starduster Too
Antonov An-2
Edge 360
Nanchang
Miles Magister
Harvard
Hawker Hunter
Glider Aerobatics
Piper Arrow
Bird Dog L-19
Yak 52
Gazelle (transfer of Red 10)
Gyrocopter
Wild Geese


Please note that all appearances listed here are taken from the Internet. Please visit the official Portrush Airshow site for comfirmation of displays.

http://www.niinternationalairshow.co.uk/ (http://www.niinternationalairshow.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Merlin on March 15, 2010, 01:44:44 PM
Got an email from the RAF Hawk Display Team saying "if it happens, we'll be there!"

RAF Tucano is also listed as attending according to their display (http://www.raf.mod.uk/tucanodisplayteam/displayinfo/displaycalendar.cfm?dsiplaycalendar) programme, but only on the Saturday.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Hammerhead on March 20, 2010, 01:53:02 PM
Its starting to look like saturday is going to be the best day to go by far.....
The Dak is the only BBMF aircraft down to attend and guess what.... only on the saturday.... ::)
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/ (http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/)   

Its also down to display at punchestown on the monday.... ;D
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Merlin on March 20, 2010, 03:44:20 PM
Its starting to look like saturday is going to be the best day to go by far.....
The Dak is the only BBMF aircraft down to attend and guess what.... only on the saturday.... ::)

There's a big Battle of Britain display on at Duxford on the Sunday to mark the 70th anniversary so I imagine the BBMF plus other RAF aircraft will be attending that.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on March 20, 2010, 05:53:27 PM
I think the BBMF aircraft should be divided up between venues a bit more evenly-Duxford gets more than its fair share of almost everything;I realise of course that it was a RAF BoB station and the Duxford Shows are some of the UK biggest,but I think it is unfair to forget about many of the smaller shows.
 
Considering the BBMF is a National Treasure,I feel it isn`t distributed around the country fairly.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on April 08, 2010, 09:39:54 AM
Eurofighter will be appearing on Sunday.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on April 13, 2010, 12:55:11 PM
To be honest... and at the risk of being controversial here...

...I'd much rather that airshow organisers here stop trying to get the likes of the Battle Of Britain flight over and focus their resources (cash and time) on trying to secure more heavy metal (fast jets and airliners, etc). The weather is rarely kind enough for the BBMF and even then it rarely turns up anyway. Why allocate valuable funds and slots to something that is likely to let us down on the day meaning some other small aircraft has to stand in and do a second display?

The general public prefer the thrill of the jets, etc anyway.

Now this would be a good line up :-

Apache
Merlin
Tornado
Eurofighter
Harrier
Vulcan / Buccaneer, etc
One foreign airforce appearance (e.g. US F-15)
One national fast jet display team (doesn't have to be the Red Arrows all the time!)
One commercial aircraft demo (e.g, Airbus, Boeing, or high performance Turboprop)

Now THAT would be a show!
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on April 13, 2010, 12:56:56 PM
p.s. The Chinook display team aren't bad either ;)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on April 13, 2010, 01:05:43 PM
I couldn't agree more but with it being a free show the organisers are limited to what they can get. Having said that I think they do an excellent job with the resources that they have. Just compare the Portrush show to the two other free shows in Ireland, Bray and Salthill. Portrush outshines both of them.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on April 13, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
Yeah, agreed.

And I'm not getting at any particular show in particular I must say! I think that the NI Airshow is the best we have right now.

It's just hard not to accept that the future or any decent airshows in NI (and Ireland as a whole) is all but gone.

I don't see why we don't just re think the whole situation, move any show to Aldergrove so it's more central with a good flight line and usuable runway, get a programme line up that is exciting enough to draw the masses (e.g. plenty of jets, etc), move it to mid summer (e.g. July fortnight), and charge for it. Many think that charging for a show just wouldn't work whereas I think it's more a case of delivering a show that people want to pay for.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on April 13, 2010, 11:14:07 PM
I can understand some peoples frustration with the BBMF,but as I have mentioned in previous posts it is just down to bad luck with the weather mainly.
Portrush as just been unlucky and has had more than it`s fair share of no-shows from the BBMF.
The BBMF operate under VFR rules,and also the aircraft only operate very restricted flying hours:as far as I am concerned the BBMF are very special and it is a real treat to see them.
 
I am a big fan of warbirds;the only thing I don`t like to see is the Swastika :o displayed on some German WWII types (it is still illegal to display a Swastika in France).
Historical accuracy is normally the excuse,but some operators of German WWII warbirds have just a German cross on the tail,or nothing at all.
 
Personally I love the sound of the Rolls Royce Merlin engines;with the BBMF if they manage to make it you have 6 of them at once ( FANTASTIC!!!)  ;D ;D ;D
 
I don`t think an airshow is complete without a few WWII aircraft,but I agree more variety would be nice.
 
Having an airshow at Aldergrove or Belfast City (or any UK commercial airport) would be almost impossible now because of the security implications.
 
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on April 14, 2010, 06:21:04 AM
Home come they can do it at Le Bourget, Schonefeld, etc? Surely the implications are even greater at these larger airports?
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on April 14, 2010, 06:21:44 AM
I gotta agree by the way with the RR Merlins. Beautiful sound!
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: deemay on April 14, 2010, 01:11:41 PM
As per facebook today 14th:
niinternationalairshow (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Portrush-United-Kingdom/niinternationalairshow/236510034049?ref=nf) The Red Arrows   have confirmed they will display as a 9 ship formation this year which   is great news. One pilot is too injured to fly this year and so a former   Red is rejoining the team although the extra training means they won't   get their Display Authorisation until 16th June. Ten displays are   cancelled but it shouldn't affect Portrush in September.   ;D
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on April 14, 2010, 01:15:16 PM
I don`t know how overseas shows get around the security issue;all I can comment on is the UK Airport situation.
 
The Department of Transport issued directives that all visitors to the ramp at UK Commercial Airports must be issued with a visitors pass,carry photographic ID,and must be accompined at all times by a full pass holder.
 
That`s the way it was when I worked at Aldergrove.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on April 23, 2010, 06:34:53 AM
Typhoon confirmed
http://www.raf.mod.uk/typhoondisplay/displayprogramme/2010_display_dates.cfm (http://www.raf.mod.uk/typhoondisplay/displayprogramme/2010_display_dates.cfm)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on April 23, 2010, 09:49:38 AM
very impressive, casper. 6.30 in the morning - you beat me to it!
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on April 23, 2010, 10:02:12 AM
My alarm clock went off early - he wakened about 5:30am  :LOL
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on April 23, 2010, 10:03:13 AM
Yes - i remember those days.....
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on May 28, 2010, 01:45:21 PM
Website facelift - new details for 2010 coming soon.
 
www.niinternationalairshow.co.uk (http://www.niinternationalairshow.co.uk)
 
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on May 28, 2010, 04:19:56 PM
Is the Spitfire image a hint of what's to come :)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on June 01, 2010, 09:08:39 AM
ETA for Red Arrows 1730 on Saturday - prepare for traffic chaos at 1756...
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: deemay on June 01, 2010, 02:32:08 PM
 niinternationalairshow VIA facebook.  Watch Channel 4 this Friday, 9pm, "Fighting the Red Baron" to see the actual Se5 biplane which is appearing at Portrush in September.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: deemay on June 01, 2010, 10:17:18 PM
Hey guys, do you think, if I was a male, that my input would get more interest? I feel that every time I put a little into this forum, I get completely ignored, I think guys rule here! and females are not wanted......:-(
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Hammerhead on June 01, 2010, 10:38:24 PM
Hi deemay , I for one dont regard this site as a male only site and I read your posts just like I read anyone else's, Perhaps the fact that keegster had already posted about the Se5 might explain the lack of response to yours http://www.niaviation.co.uk/general-aviation-discussion/fighting-the-red-baron/. (http://www.niaviation.co.uk/general-aviation-discussion/fighting-the-red-baron/.)

I also believe that if all of us that posted topics that had no reply's  gave up posting there would be no posts on here at all.

Dont give up, but perhaps if you join in with a few more posts the chances of getting replys will increase too.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Dave on June 01, 2010, 10:41:25 PM
Hey guys, do you think, if I was a male, that my input would get more interest? I feel that every time I put a little into this forum, I get completely ignored, I think guys rule here! and females are not wanted......:-(

Of course you're wanted here, any input is welcome  ;) For me though, as a photographer, I'd get more excited about larger aircraft appearing at Portrush. I'm wondering how I'm going to get an Se5 to fill my camera frame when at Portrush!  :-[
 
Dave
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Hammerhead on June 01, 2010, 10:53:18 PM
I'm wondering how I'm going to get an Se5 to fill my camera frame when at Portrush!  :-[

If it's flying into a headwind you will be able to get a brush and easel out and paint a pic of it... :LOL
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on June 02, 2010, 12:52:25 AM
Hi Deemay,your posts are just as valuable as anyone else on here,so please don`t think you are being ignored or that you are not welcome. :D
 
Often people don`t reply to posts;they just read them,so dont be offended.
 
 
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on June 02, 2010, 05:53:08 AM
Hi Deemay, as others have said your posts are more than welcome here. But don't get disheartened if you don't get a reply. They are read but not every post gets a reply. If I gave up because I didn't get a reply I'd have given up years ago :) So please hang in there and continue to contribute to the forum.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on June 14, 2010, 02:23:35 PM
Eurofighter has been conformed for both days :)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on June 14, 2010, 03:51:04 PM
Great news. the typhoon makes a great noise.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: iCardboardRobot on July 05, 2010, 03:25:33 PM
Another addition to the line-up, the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight Dakota on Saturday

Coming together nicely now.  TFT seems quiet this weather, hope he's not too busy to post and keep us updated on developments every so often :-)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on July 05, 2010, 07:18:58 PM
I am hoping they manage to get a Hurricane or Spitfire-the Dakota is a lovely aircraft,but as it`s the 70th Anniversary,it would be a major disappointment not to get a "proper" Battle of Britain aircraft.
 
The BBMF are going to be even busier than normal this season,but it`s afew years since we have seen any of the fighters in Northern Ireland,so hopefully they can be persuaded to send one over with the Dak.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: iCardboardRobot on July 06, 2010, 11:54:36 AM
NI debut of the Twister Duo also just announced
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Dave on July 06, 2010, 02:53:28 PM
NI debut of the Twister Duo also just announced

I just googled the Twister Duo, I saw one of their aircraft (G-RIOT) last year at East Fortune. Their aircraft look like miniture homebuilt Spitfire's :D especially with the elipitical wing!
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on July 27, 2010, 12:28:26 AM
Line-up so far from what I can find:
 
RAF Red Arrows (Sat only)
RAF Typhoon
RAF Tucano
RAF BBMF Dakota
Twister Duo
SE5a
EI-HUM Vans RV7 (Cow Plane)
DH Chipmunk
Jet Provest
Bucker Jungmann
 
Hopefully more displays will be added soon.
 
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on July 29, 2010, 01:44:59 PM
I expect David Bruton will also display his SU26 and there`s a possiblity the RAF Hawk will display also.
 
I doubt there will be any other RAF types displaying as so many are needed overseas (C-17,C-130`s,R1 Sentinal,Harrier etc)
Also some retirements happening with the VC-10`s going,Tornado F.3`s are also for the chop very soon
 
Hopefully the line-up will improve as it`s looking a bit thin at the minute.
 
However I will be supporting the show no matter how thin the line-up,as it took a lot of hard work to get the show back on,so while it would be nice to see loads of new and exciting aircraft displays,the show will probably be a fairly low-key affair this year.
 
Would be nice to see some US aircraft taking part ie F-15`s and a KC-135 :D
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on July 29, 2010, 01:48:03 PM
Even something from the Air Corps - they can send a 139 to Fairford but never seem to be able to send anything to Portrush ????
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on July 29, 2010, 01:55:54 PM
They have been noticable by their absense of late;in previous years they have displayed the PC-9`s x3,the CASA,and the R172 Rockets.
 
The Irish Coastguard S-61 would be an interesting heli to see displayed possibley along with a Seaking.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Xair on August 07, 2010, 07:41:03 PM
I'm starting to get that sinking feeling re the Portrush Airshow. The Flyer states both days will have 20 display aircraft!!!! I can't see how they come to that total and TTF is not giving many clues away compared with last year.
 
Xair
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on August 07, 2010, 09:09:35 PM
Let's enjoy what does turn up.Maybe we'll get a few flypasts in the mix.

With fewer RAF aircraft available, and costs (no doubt) rising for everything else,it must be getting harder and harder to put together a list of display acts for a free show,with the limited (but very generous) sponsorship available.

Ticket venues have more money at their disposal.

Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on August 07, 2010, 09:23:06 PM
Quote
With fewer RAF aircraft available,
Unfortunately I don't think this is true. I think it's a case of who you know. When at RIAT there were at least 3-4 Harriers, 2-3 Typhoons, 4-5 Tornado, 2-3 Tucano, 2 Merlins, 1 AWACS etc. and they were all there 3-4 days.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on August 07, 2010, 09:50:58 PM
Controversial, I know.. But I've said it before.. We need ONE airshow over here based at an airfield such as Aldergrove. It should be a ticket event with a great lineup of fast jets, nice and noisey stuff, some commercial aircraft, and one or more international display teams. With plenty of other action going on. The idea is to attract people form all over Ireland to visit the event - as well as bringing people over from the mainland.

The average member of the public doesn't want to see too many smaller and slower aircraft... Even as a big fan of aircraft it becomes tiring seeing the same lineup of vintage aircraft with only one or two more modern aircraft on show. Sorry!

We need just ONE, two day event based at an airport with a good runway so that the aircraft can land, refuel, etc.

Ireland as a whole just needs to pick a single airport, a single weekend, and make it happen!

...Otherwise I suspect that 2010 will be one of the very last airshows ever seen over here again.


Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 08, 2010, 12:12:08 AM
I agree with most of your comments Greg but I reckon Northern Ireland could hold such an event itself.
Not wishing to ignore our friends in the South,but I think the South does OK for airshows in it`s own right.
 
It`s a fact that the RAF definitely don`t send enough different types to smaller airshows;their are plenty to the big UK shows such as RIAT,Wadddington,Duxford,Leuchars etc.
The RAF have a list of priority shows and they send all the good stuff to them. :(
This year there isn't meant to be displays from either the Harrier,Chinook or Tornado's,but they role them out for the big shows.
The simple fact is unfortunately that the smaller airshows don`t get the opportunity to book some of the more interesting aircraft.
 
I always thought Newtownards was a good venue,the only slight drawback was the runway length.I know they have had airshows at Aldergrove in the past but I was never at one and I don`t think they would be too keen.
Aldergrove along with most UK airports have become security obsessed of late and I can`t see an airshow happening at any major UK airport anymore.
St.Angelo isn`t ideal either as the runway sits in a "V" shaped valley and the high ground on two sides make jet pilots VERY nervous.
 
Last year on the Sunday of the Portrush airshow the weather looked pretty awful over Portrush and we took a drive to Beone beach.
I think it would be a better venue than Portrush as the beach is very long and has a natural display line.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on August 08, 2010, 07:56:14 AM
Quote
With fewer RAF aircraft available,
Unfortunately I don't think this is true. I think it's a case of who you know. When at RIAT there were at least 3-4 Harriers, 2-3 Typhoons, 4-5 Tornado, 2-3 Tucano, 2 Merlins, 1 AWACS etc. and they were all there 3-4 days.

RIAT is the biggest show on the UK calendar - of course the RAF is going to send more aircraft.How many of these aircraft participated in the flying display?

We have ground space for a handful of helicopters at Portrush - i doubt you'll ever see three or four Tornados packed into the tennis courts.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on August 08, 2010, 08:04:23 AM
Aldergrove had two air displays back in the 80's. Aircraft displays included Concorde, US A10's, Vulcan.

I miss the airshows at Ards. As you say, it was a decent venue with just the disadvantage of a short runway. Handy to get to and the show back on the VJ year with the Lynx doing the backflips was excellent. Superb May sunshine that year (got my face sunburnt looking up at the aircraft!)

Another display I enjoyed (though a bit of a hike to get to) was the one at City of Derry airport. The runway was long enough for the Tornado and Jaguar to land there, so you were able to watch them start up and takeoff.

One of my problems with airshows up on the north coast is the certain element of risk you get with the weather and line up. It's a fair old drive up there, and being September you either get an ok day, or a blustery day which is not that pleasant. I hate it when things don't show up and the same aircraft (e.g. Jet Provest, Tesco Eye in the Sky, etc) do another mini display.

Please note, I'm not having a particular go here - I'm just depressed at our lack of a decent show to look forward to each year.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on August 08, 2010, 08:05:47 AM
Quote
With fewer RAF aircraft available,
Unfortunately I don't think this is true. I think it's a case of who you know. When at RIAT there were at least 3-4 Harriers, 2-3 Typhoons, 4-5 Tornado, 2-3 Tucano, 2 Merlins, 1 AWACS etc. and they were all there 3-4 days.

RIAT is the biggest show on the UK calendar - of course the RAF is going to send more aircraft.How many of these aircraft participated in the flying display?

We have ground space for a handful of helicopters at Portrush - i doubt you'll ever see three or four Tornados packed into the tennis courts.




That doesn't mean they couldn't have something like 2 Tornados or Typhoons do a flypast though?? ;-) We pay our taxes too!

Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on August 08, 2010, 08:10:17 AM
I think we deserve a little bit more than one or two RAF trainer aircraft (single Tucano and single Hawk) + one fast jet + Reds per year?
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on August 08, 2010, 11:04:17 AM
It's not a question of who pays their taxes.
The RAF have to be paid for out of the show fund, the same as all other display acts.Sorry to repeat myself but Portrush is a small show at the opposite end of the scale to RIAT.It all boils down to money.

Limited sponsorship + program sales won't buy too much these days.

I heard Ekn / Ards ran at a loss,despite council funding,ticket / program sales + sponsorship.Who can afford that these days?






Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 08, 2010, 12:40:56 PM
Yes RIAT is good but remember it isn't an airshow it is a market where aircraft show off their abillities and then hope to get companies to buy their kit. There are airshows like duxford and luechars that are actual airshows.unfortunately sunderland and portrush are always left short of fast jets and helicopters.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Hammerhead on August 08, 2010, 01:00:43 PM
Yes RIAT is good but remember it isn't an airshow it is a market where aircraft show off their abillities and then hope to get companies to buy their kit. There are airshows like duxford and luechars that are actual airshows.
I think your getting RIAT mixed up with Farnborough....   
RIAT is a Airshow that is run to make money for the Royal Airforce Charitable Trust.....http://www.airtattoo.com/RAF-Charitable-Trust (http://www.airtattoo.com/RAF-Charitable-Trust)

Farnborough is a trade fair for aircraft manufactures...... http://www.farnborough.com/Site/Content/Farnborough2010/default.aspx (http://www.farnborough.com/Site/Content/Farnborough2010/default.aspx)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 08, 2010, 02:15:24 PM
Yeah sorry i did get a we bit mixed up.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Dave on August 09, 2010, 11:46:07 AM
Aldergrove had two air displays back in the 80's. Aircraft displays included Concorde, US A10's, Vulcan.
 
I miss the airshows at Ards. As you say, it was a decent venue with just the disadvantage of a short runway. Handy to get to and the show back on the VJ year with the Lynx doing the backflips was excellent. Superb May sunshine that year (got my face sunburnt looking up at the aircraft!)
 
One of my problems with airshows up on the north coast is the certain element of risk you get with the weather and line up. It's a fair old drive up there, and being September you either get an ok day, or a blustery day which is not that pleasant. I hate it when things don't show up and the same aircraft (e.g. Jet Provest, Tesco Eye in the Sky, etc) do another mini display.
 
Please note, I'm not having a particular go here - I'm just depressed at our lack of a decent show to look forward to each year.

Concorde at BFS for an airshow... Impressive! Pitty Aer Lingus couldn't be convinced to provide an aircraft for a flypast or two;
 
(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/0/2/3/1757320.jpg)
Image on airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aer-Lingus/Boeing-747-148/1757320/L/)
 
The airshows at both Newtownards and Eglington were fantastic, having runways allowed a proper display line to be set up, and walking around various aircraft was always nice as well. The same for St Angelo's although I only made it up there once for an airshow and queued up for a wee nosey around the Duxford based Catalina, G-PBYA.
 
The weather in May and June generally seems to be the best with weather having faded by September meaning we're out of luck by the time of Portrush Airshow commences. I can only remember one weekend where weather was good during the show.
 
Portrush seems to be the last viable place for an airshow in NI these days as the number of businesses who profit from the event is massive. If an airshow was to be held at Newtownards, Eglington, or Aldergrove, it would be hard for the government to justify holding airshows at such venues with a lack of local businesses about. But the fact that people can not be charged at portrush Airshow is a major downside.
 
200,000 people attended one weekend a few years ago. Charging each person roughly between £5-£10, along with the sale of several thousand programmes, and you're talking a decent amount of cash to cover for the costs and you have a self sustainable airshow.
 
I wonder if anyone has ever considered Langford Lodge as an airshow venue. It would've been a good option back when the UAS were based there.
 
Dave
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Merlin on August 09, 2010, 12:12:04 PM
Aldergrove had two air displays back in the 80's. Aircraft displays included Concorde, US A10's, Vulcan.

Another display I enjoyed (though a bit of a hike to get to) was the one at City of Derry airport. The runway was long enough for the Tornado and Jaguar to land there, so you were able to watch them start up and takeoff.

Oddly enough I do remember going to one of the displays at Aldergrove where Concorde flew in. The main memory I have of that was getting my picture taken in a Gazelle.

Those were the days  :)

Anyone know why the show was shelved?

Been to one of the shows at City of Derry as well. Distinctly remember there being two Tornado's at that one  ;D

I'd be curious to know how difficult it would be to shut down Aldergrove for 1 or 2 days to hold a show.

I'm assuming the airport was shut down during the shows in the 80's.
 
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on August 09, 2010, 01:30:17 PM
Actually, No. The airport remained open during the show with the normal landings and departures slotted in with the rest of the show. I remember the crowds applauding the airliners taking off! BAC-111's, older 737's, Tridents, etc!

I'd love to go to a show and see a few of those classic birds taking off today!

VC-10
BAC-111
737-200
Trident
727

Chuck in a nice L-1011 Tristar for good measure! (non military)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 09, 2010, 09:41:40 PM
UAS had open days and some aircraft did visit but were unable to display because of the proximity to Aldergrove.
The RAF sent a Wessex and a Puma and the AAC sent a Gazelle and or a Lynx.
Anthony Hodgson brought his two seat Spitfire PT462 (G-CTIX)over once as well.
Oh and we also had a Grumman Albatross over owned by Mark DeSilva.
Just a pass or two before landing was all that was permitted.
 
With Martin-Baker being on the site the UAS had to be very careful where jo-public went and I spent most of my time up there herding people away from the Martin Baker buildings.
 
The runways at Langford are falling into disrepair and it would be dangerous except for small aircraft to land there now.
I`m fairly sure the airfield is classed as Un liscensed now.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Merlin on August 09, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
Actually, No. The airport remained open during the show with the normal landings and departures slotted in with the rest of the show. I remember the crowds applauding the airliners taking off! BAC-111's, older 737's, Tridents, etc!

Thinking out loud here, so feel free to tell me to pipe down  ;D

An airshow at Aldergrove today could be theoretically possible? Aldergrove is not exactly swamped with traffic like Heathrow or even Dublin. Running an airshow with the odd flight in between would not be out of the question.

I'm almost certain that back in the 80's the area used for the show is now the cargo terminal.

What about having the show on the Army side of the field? They have the room and access can be controlled. Fairford does it every year.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on August 09, 2010, 11:00:53 PM
You are correct about where the audience where. In today's cargo area.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 09, 2010, 11:20:47 PM
Certainly the military side of Aldergrove would be a much better option,the RAF Aldergrove Family Days were pretty much like a mini-airshow except on a few occasions when the fast jets were static only.
 
There would be plenty of room that side.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Dave on August 10, 2010, 01:26:47 PM
UAS had open days and some aircraft did visit but were unable to display because of the proximity to Aldergrove.
The RAF sent a Wessex and a Puma and the AAC sent a Gazelle and or a Lynx.
Anthony Hodgson brought his two seat Spitfire PT462 (G-CTIX)over once as well.
Oh and we also had a Grumman Albatross over owned by Mark DeSilva.
Just a pass or two before landing was all that was permitted.
 
With Martin-Baker being on the site the UAS had to be very careful where jo-public went and I spent most of my time up there herding people away from the Martin Baker buildings.
 
The runways at Langford are falling into disrepair and it would be dangerous except for small aircraft to land there now.
I`m fairly sure the airfield is classed as Un liscensed now.

Excellent, thaks for the info. That clears up why Langford Lodge was never a viabale airshow location :) The Grumman Albatross sounds familar, I was in the middle of a weeks work experience at Belfast City Airport's ATC around 2001 and I remember they requested a flypast along the RWY from a Grumman Albatross when he was heading back to England.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 10, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
If I recall correctly the Grumman Albatross was based in Florida and it was flown over in stages-must have been quite an adventure.
 
I notice on the Portrush Airshow website the Nord 1002 (Me108) is back and a Spitfire ;D .
 
Doesn`t say which Spitfire is displaying,but the one in the pic is a BBMF example.
 
Hopefully a Hurricane will be added to the line-up. :)
 
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: redpaul on August 10, 2010, 09:23:16 PM
Haven't heard any mention of the Breitling Wingwalkers this year and no mention of Portrush on the Wingwalkers schedule on their website. Was looking forward to the new paint scheme.
They usually make a couple of appearances each day to fill the gaps between displays and it's looking like there could be a few more gaps this year.

Paul
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 11, 2010, 12:11:06 AM
The Bretling team are in France on the Sunday of the Portrush show,so I doubt they will be attending Portrush,especially as they now only have two aircraft.
 
I also have it on good authority that The Blades aren`t coming to Portrush either,despite not having any bookings that weekend on their display list. :(
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Xair on August 11, 2010, 07:57:07 AM
Looks like its going to be a long day with plenty of gaps in between each aircraft or maybe get a Merlin to do loads of flypasts ::)  Surely there are loads of Mil aircraft that could have been invited. The USA, Dutch, French airforces even the Russians, A Ryanair, BA, easyjet flypast, A cavalcade of local microlights, helicopters, the PSNI helicopter!. At least one anual airshow in NI is something that the population certainly love and have supported over the years. My favourit airshows were always at Newtonards, there was a flightline that you were close to which gave you more of an experience of the aircraft, there was a static display, smaller aircraft were more impresive, the army bombing and shot outs were entertaining, We always got a flight in a cesna or whatever was giving pleasure trips the show was more compact and you were able to enjoy it all.
Just my 2p's worth
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 11, 2010, 10:23:53 AM
I think so far what is on the list of aircraft is a bit dissappointing only 12 so far and only a few weeks to go. Might be a lot of fly by's with the piper arrow eye in the sky to fill in the long gaps. their have to more aircraft committed by now.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: iCardboardRobot on August 11, 2010, 10:40:54 AM
I'am going to risk the wrath of folks here, but i am quite pleased that the Blades and Wingwalkers arn't coming, we have seen them do displays every year since the airshow started and to be honest i think i have seen everything they have to offer. I for one am bored of seeing the exact same aircraft every year with the very odd newbie.

 I also dont want to see an endless list of small prop aircraft doing what seems to be the same display, i appreciate that each of these aircraft are different, but to me they all seem to be doing the exact same slow pass. If were honest the majority of people come to see loud and fast jets, which i fully appreciate is difficult these days and it makes me regret taking for granted displays by harriers, Tornado's and my personal favorite the Jaguar !

I would happily not get 3/4 of these smaller aircraft in exchange for a jet, or at least something new ? As others have asked why cant we see the IAC call up or fly bys from Leuchers ?

TTF and the other extremely hard working organisers i do not want to be seen as getting at you guys as we all understand the finical and operational limits of the shows and know you all do your very best.
Paul
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 11, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Luechars airshow is always the week after portrush, So not much chance of getting any aircraft from there. But i do think that even though the people behind the airshow are being put under great pressure as they dont seem to get any help from the M.O.D or even the private sector pilots that have certain aircraft that peform at other airshows except portrush.  I believe that portrush is the best area around the u.k. for displaying aircraft and show off their full potential. unlike luechars that has a height restriction due to the flight path of flight to and from EDI.  Portrush has no height issues so the aircraft and pilots can do what they love to do and show off their plane and enjoy the crowds that watch them. I know lots of people who go to luechars and farnbrough just to see the aircraft on the ground, But 2 guys that never knew about portrush came over 2 years ago and wrote on a web site that they have never seen aircraft do stuff like that at any airshow they have been too, the red arrows were amazing as the did their stuff at high speed and no height restrictions. A great venue for an airshow as the bay is like an ampithearte. And the crowds are massive.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2010, 01:19:32 PM
I'm actually massively disappointed that the wing walkers will not be there this year  :(  New livery this year as the Breitling Team, they always managed to fly into the bay close to spectators, the overpowered engines sounded fantastic, and the kids always loved to see the ladies on top of the wing. And they often flew double displays when other aircraft never made it. They were always reliable so without them this year, who knows what to expect...
 
The flying display is from midday until 6pm on the Saturday and on the Sunday the display time is midday until 5.30pm. Has it ever been 6 hours long before on a Saturday? Also mentioned on the flyer, there is a poppy drop so the big lumbering Lithuanian silver An-2 seems to be on the schedule although it's pictures not in the gallery of the 12 aircraft displaying...  ???  Perhaps the Dakota will perform the poppy drop this year?
 
On a sidenote, i remember a few years ago, a Blue-note Hawker Hunter displayed at the show however unfortunately when returning back to England, the aircraft crashed into a field, thankfully the pilot survived. Link to the incident details below.
 
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/dft_avsafety_pdf_028723.pdf (http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/dft_avsafety_pdf_028723.pdf)
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 12, 2010, 10:50:11 AM
That`s right Dave it was the first Portrush Show I went to-the aircraft had a compressor fault when it left Blackpool and should not really have attempted to display at all.
 
The weather was awful that day with a very low cloud base,the Reds abandonded their display after one pass.
 
I recall the pilot of the Hunter was a Eurofighter Test Pilot,why he did not divert to Aldergrove or Eglington when the aircraft developed electrical problems I` don`t know.
He attempted to return to the aircraft`s base in Exeter and the engine flamed out,forceing the pilot to eject.
 
Ultimately his poor judgement led to the destruction of the aircraft.
 
The image ot the Hunter`s tail stiking out of the bogland still haunts me!
 
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 12, 2010, 11:22:06 AM
TTF and his colleagues put aload of hard work into organising the airshow,and it cannot be easy with their limited budget.
 
Also there are probably only so many acts that are prepared to travel to Portrush to display,as it would possibly not be financially viable due to fuel costs etc.
 
I think we are all agreed that big stuff and fast jets are what most of Joe Public want to see,but it`s difficult to get those sort os aircraft on a smallish budget.
 
I think the show would be better as a one day event and a shorter display time;6 hrs is too much to fill.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on August 12, 2010, 11:33:12 AM
Quote
TTF and his colleagues put aload of hard work into organising the airshow,and it cannot be easy with their limited budget.
Totally agree and all credit to them for the job they do.

Quote
I think the show would be better as a one day event and a shorter display time;6 hrs is too much to fill.
Again I agree. The Salthill Airshow I went to a few years ago was over the space of three hours and there were no breaks between displays. I think that a 3-4 hour display would be more than long enough.

Quote
I think we are all agreed that big stuff and fast jets are what most of   Joe Public want to see,but it`s difficult to get those sort os aircraft   on a smallish budget.
But if it was reduced to a one day show then the budget is effectively doubled i.e. not split over two days, so maybe some aircraft could become possible on the budget.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 13, 2010, 11:46:06 AM
Hopefully some displays we haven`t seen before will be added.
As mentioned by others the IAC haven`t displayed at Portrush for several years;maybe they could be persuaded to send up the Casa or a gaggle of PC-9`s.
 
Team Viper that operate 4 Strikemaster`s and hopefully 4 Hunters soon would be a very welcome addition. :)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 13, 2010, 12:13:59 PM
Maybe but i would like to see the VENOM or VAMPIRE again. team VIPER would be nice as well.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 13, 2010, 12:53:38 PM
Vampire and Venom make a lovely sound,but 4 Hunters would sound even better! ;)
 
The big DC-6 was a very popular aircraft when it displayed a few years back;Air Atlantique that operate it have some lovely old aircraft.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 13, 2010, 05:08:42 PM
Was taking my dog a walk when i met someone who works in portrush and he heard that either a B747-8 or B787 was to appear at the airshow . This is also reported on the niinternationalairshow facebook page by someone who says the same thing. If it is correct then well done to the organisers.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
Was taking my dog a walk when i met someone who works in portrush and he heard that either a B747-8 or B787 was to appear at the airshow . This is also reported on the niinternationalairshow facebook page by someone who says the same thing. If it is correct then well done to the organisers.

Now that would be great, although realistically, not in a million years. Unlike Airbus, Boeing does not perform their aircraft at airshows. Even at Farnborough or Paris, they'd sit on the tarmac all day.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on August 14, 2010, 02:26:24 PM
Didn't one of Virgins 747's display with the Red Arrows a while back.

Perhaps it is only a rumour but i wouldn't rule anything out - who knows what negotiations have been taking place.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 16, 2010, 02:16:52 PM
Edge 360 stunt plane has been comfirmed to appear this year.
And also NANCHANG will appear as well.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on August 16, 2010, 02:38:43 PM
Boeing story is not true though it would be nice!
Very tricky this year - lots of cancellations, crashes, licence failures, liquidations, etc. New regulations making West Bay difficult as a venue but we're cracking on none the less. 2 sunny days and there'll be no worries.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on August 16, 2010, 05:34:03 PM
Boeing story is not true though it would be nice!


Thanks for quashing the rumour  :D

[/quote]Very tricky this year - lots of cancellations, crashes, licence failures, liquidations, etc. New regulations making West Bay difficult as a venue but we're cracking on none the less. 2 sunny days and there'll be no worries.
[/quote]

Oh dear,that sounds ominous.Fingers crossed here for a bit of good weather that weekend  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on August 19, 2010, 04:52:53 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7950527/RAF-air-show-pilot-has-wings-clipped.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7950527/RAF-air-show-pilot-has-wings-clipped.html)
 
Hawk will still make an appearance - "role demo" rather than aero. Heard conflicting reports if there's any real difference between the two.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on August 19, 2010, 05:21:06 PM
Any helicopters in the pipeline for this years event?

An awful pity that the tennis courts won't be used as a static area this year  :'( :'(
Was that decision due to the Campaign Against Aviation ?
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Merlin on August 19, 2010, 09:39:14 PM
Any helicopters in the pipeline for this years event?

An awful pity that the tennis courts won't be used as a static area this year  :'( :'(
Was that decision due to the Campaign Against Aviation ?

When was that decided?  >:(

The helicopters have always been one of the highlights. Anyone who goes up to Ramore Head will know how nothing draws a crowd like a helicopter taking off.

Has an alternate site been proposed for a static display or have they binned it altogether?
Personally I think that not having a static heli display would be a major mistake.

The more I hear the less enthusiastic I get about this years show  :(
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 19, 2010, 10:46:52 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7950527/RAF-air-show-pilot-has-wings-clipped.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7950527/RAF-air-show-pilot-has-wings-clipped.html)
 
Hawk will still make an appearance - "role demo" rather than aero. Heard conflicting reports if there's any real difference between the two.


That newspaper report is a complete pile of rubbish, and is based on scare mongering,blatant untruths, and ill informed rumours.

The pilot concerned has NOT been grounded and never was.
He is NOT a STUNT PILOT.
He is currently flying Hawks at RAF Valley as part of a Weapons Instructors Course.
The display he was flying has been flown many times before and has had full clearance from the RAF.
He was not flying unauthorised manoeuvres
The alleged "incident" is under investigation by the RAF and MOD.
NO other statements have been issued as to why the display pilot was removed from his display role.

This sort of ill informed shock tactic media reporting makes me mad;it deliberately sets out to frighten the general public into thinking that the RAF displays are unsafe,and it`s pilots are a load of indisciplined showoffs.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: 52POSTROC on August 20, 2010, 02:44:26 PM
I am currently In Portrush, my apartment is on Ramore Head looking over the Tennis Courts. Over the last few days the Council have been erecting fencing and putting black plastic up around the Courts + they brought in a few small portacabins this morning. It all looks very similar to last years set-up so I would hazard a guess that there will be some Helecopters using them again this year.  Hope so anyway as it was a hell of an experience last year watching the Merlin lift off about 10 feet infront of me.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 20, 2010, 02:57:25 PM
There  is a lot of conflicting reports about this incident and it is getting rather annoying. I have spoken to a mate of mine and he has said that the inncident has been blown out of perportion and the pilot concerned has not been a bad boy as reported, He thinks it is an issue with the event that the aircraft displayed at and not a pilot error or misjudgement. But the truth will be made public after the inquery is finished.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on August 20, 2010, 03:06:02 PM
The set up at Ramore Head is for the pipe band championships tomorrow. There will be no helicopters at the air show.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on August 20, 2010, 03:42:58 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7950527/RAF-air-show-pilot-has-wings-clipped.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7950527/RAF-air-show-pilot-has-wings-clipped.html)
 
Hawk will still make an appearance - "role demo" rather than aero. Heard conflicting reports if there's any real difference between the two.


That newspaper report is a complete pile of rubbish, and is based on scare mongering,blatant untruths, and ill informed rumours.

The pilot concerned has NOT been grounded and never was.
He is NOT a STUNT PILOT.
He is currently flying Hawks at RAF Valley as part of a Weapons Instructors Course.
The display he was flying has been flown many times before and has had full clearance from the RAF.
He was not flying unauthorised manoeuvres
The alleged "incident" is under investigation by the RAF and MOD.
NO other statements have been issued as to why the display pilot was removed from his display role.

This sort of ill informed shock tactic media reporting makes me mad;it deliberately sets out to frighten the general public into thinking that the RAF displays are unsafe,and it`s pilots are a load of indisciplined showoffs.

According to what i have read the pilot filed a report stating that he had inadvertantly overstressed the airframe during some of the manoeuvers performed at the show in question.
I agree (along with AT and many,many others) that the wording of the RAF statement was very poor indeed.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: 52POSTROC on August 20, 2010, 03:49:20 PM
Wow, no heli's. That's pretty poor.

Will the Spitfire and the Typhoon both be there on the Sunday? I only plan on going the one day.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 20, 2010, 04:14:07 PM
Didn't expect any heli's this year due to the MOD problems with the deployment issues in afganistan. But if the airshow goes on next year we might get luck and a few will return.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on August 20, 2010, 04:40:20 PM
Didn't expect any heli's this year due to the MOD problems with the deployment issues in afganistan. But if the airshow goes on next year we might get luck and a few will return.

I'd say it has more to do with the new 'regulations' referred to a few posts back.It wouldn't surprise me if the display line is pushed out to sea further than ever before,and the Reds will not be permitted anywhere near the clifftops either.I hope i am wrong.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 20, 2010, 07:04:56 PM
I think the display line is fine where it has been for the past few years;if it did get moved further out to sea there wouldn`t be any point in having the show.
 
As it stands the display line is really only an issue for the fast jets,ie the Typhoon and Hawk.
 
The Red Arrows are allowed to fly over the crowdline to commence their show,and as there is normally a fairly powerful on shore breeze,some of the formations may overfly the cliffs very slightly.
I understand the CAA have a display supervisor at all airshows and the only incident that I have heard about was that Gerry Humphries pilot of the RV7 got told off for flying too close to the cliffs at Ramore.
He disputed he did anything wrong as he was above the height of the cliffs and flying straight and level with a fair amount of flap.
I was at Bellarena the day after the show and overheard the conversation. ;)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on August 20, 2010, 07:52:47 PM
A couple of points here (http://www.niinternationalairshow.co.uk/show.php?id=58) about the closure of the piers and tennis courts make one think that crowd / aircraft separation is stricter than ever before?
(Were the piers closed for previous displays - i don't recall?)

I think the display line was fine where it was as well - however the powers that be may have decided otherwise........

Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on August 20, 2010, 09:19:26 PM
Just to clarify - display parameters are as before. If we can just stop the buoys being pulled out to sea..!
The piers are closed this time under advisement from CAA inspectors because of the tightness of the bay and allow for over-runs. The courts aren't being used because there simply are not helicopters allocated this year despite our begging. As String points out the cut backs/increased active deployment of the helos means we miss out this year - and thanks for your optimism String, hopefully we get luckier next year.
AT once again I'm impressed with how well informed you are.
In 2005 (I think) an Extra 300 was red-carded by the Flight Control Committee for overflying the promenade
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 20, 2010, 11:36:24 PM
"AT once again I'm impressed with how well informed you are."

I just like to take an interest in local aviation matters and have actively been involved in aviation for over 25 years;maybe I take too much interest ;)
 
It has been said that I am full of information,and some of it is even useful.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 23, 2010, 03:38:02 PM
I see that a gyro-copter has been added to the list wonder if it is (LITTLE NELLY) ;D
nice too see one.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on August 24, 2010, 11:17:58 AM
TTF - the picture of the AN-2 on the official show site shows a camouflaged livery - does this mean the LY-BIG wont be appearing or has it got a new paint job?
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on August 24, 2010, 11:37:29 AM
The "usual" one was sold and the owner bought a new one.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on August 26, 2010, 11:04:07 AM
I know it's still over a week away but the weather isn't looking to bad so far.

http://uk.weather.com/weather/dailyDetails-Portrush-UKXX1042?dayNum=9 (http://uk.weather.com/weather/dailyDetails-Portrush-UKXX1042?dayNum=9)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: iCardboardRobot on August 26, 2010, 12:42:14 PM
Is there anywhere we can see the final lineup in full ? I cant find it on the official website.
Cheers as always TTF
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on August 26, 2010, 12:45:25 PM
Just click on the 'Air Display Gallery' on the right side of the main page.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on August 26, 2010, 01:18:30 PM
This is unconfirmed,  The following aircraft would be at the Bellarena flying club from Thursday 2 September on, are:-

Piper Arrow.
SE5a 1917 replica biplane
Messerschmitt BF108
Antonov AN2
Yak 50 and Yak 52
Van’s Rv-7
Cessna L19 Bird Dog
Silence Twister Duo
Decathlon
Chipmunk
Spitfire Mk26 80% scale
Nanchang CJ-6 (Chinese People’s Army Air Force).


No Decathlon, Chipmunk or Yak 50
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 26, 2010, 02:08:28 PM
Click on the gallery pic's on offical web site it has a slide show of the aircraft appearing.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on August 26, 2010, 04:10:11 PM
I see an advert for the show in this weeks Lurgan Mail.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: iCardboardRobot on August 26, 2010, 09:39:22 PM
Thank you all very much
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Xair on August 27, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
Well its the final countdown to the 2010 Airshow and its time to dust down the scanner and make sure all is working OK. I've copied Snoop55's list of frequencies from last year and would ask anyone that has any more freqs to let us know.
 
120.200 Team Guinot A/A :(
123.625 COD App
129.900 Portrush D/Z
130.100 Bellarena A/G
134.150 Portrush Display A/G
136.975 The Blades A/A :(
156.000 Portrush Lifeboat/Seaking A/G  :( Ch0
156.300 CGC Ch06
156.500 CGC Ch10
160.600 CGC Ch99
163.2875 C103.5 Airshow Ops Ch2 (ATC/Coastguard Safety Net)
163.900/159.400 SJA
163.9875 C88.5 Airshow Ops Ch1
164.050 C71.9 CBC
164.050 C186.2 SJA
164.0625 C186.2 SJA
165.075/169.875 C218.1 Lifeguards
166.125/170.925 C71.9 CBC
243.450 Red Arrows A/A
264.800 Merlin/Lynx A/A :(
446.01875 D155 ATC
449.5375 Sea King Cockpit comms :(
468.3375 C179.9 Select Security

 
Xair
   
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on August 29, 2010, 10:13:50 PM
There will be changes to display and approach freqs (new regs). Will let you know within the next couple of days
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Rallyman on August 29, 2010, 10:31:26 PM
Just had a quick look at the weather forecast for next wekend and it`s not looking too good folks , Sat looks better than Sunday , fingers crossed it`ll pick up

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.asp?zipcode=bt56&day=6 (http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.asp?zipcode=bt56&day=6)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 29, 2010, 11:35:57 PM
Weather wise I always expect the worst at Portrush.
 
I always bring Gortex waterproofs and plenty of layers cause it can get damn cold in the wind up on the Black rocks etc.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: redpaul on August 30, 2010, 06:56:58 AM
So where's everyone heading to? I'm going to Ramore Head.

Paul
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on August 30, 2010, 10:18:47 AM
Yep me too. Although it'll not be the same this year without any helicopters :(
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on August 30, 2010, 11:33:12 AM
I think i will stay around the west bay itself or might go to black rocks but i will decide when i get there.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Chalkman on August 30, 2010, 02:19:54 PM
Whats East Strand car park/beach like for views? Heading up with family on sat.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: redpaul on August 30, 2010, 05:23:18 PM
Whats East Strand car park/beach like for views? Heading up with family on sat.

Would'nt think you'd get much of a view. You'd be looking over the town.

Paul
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Rallyman on August 30, 2010, 09:23:02 PM
Think it`ll be Ramore for me too , although on the day things might change.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on August 31, 2010, 08:24:57 PM
Anybody have the Red Arrows itinery for the day? What time are they arriving at Aldergrove, etc?
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on August 31, 2010, 08:50:38 PM
Their website only gives details up to the 23rd.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/teamnews/ (http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/teamnews/)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: redpaul on August 31, 2010, 10:00:40 PM
Weather forecast picking up for the Saturday. 19 degrees and sunny spells.

Just my luck that I broke my 16GB SD card tonight and I'm now in a mad panic to get some spares. Will teach me right for only having the one card. A wee trip to Argos beckons for a few 4GB cards.

Paul
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Dave on August 31, 2010, 10:06:11 PM
I have the flu so might not make it up  :-[  Fingers crossed for some good weather though!
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Rallyman on August 31, 2010, 10:54:16 PM


Weather forecast picking up for the Saturday. 19 degrees and sunny spells.

Paul

I`ve been checking the forecast every day  since  last Sunday and its changeing daily , changeing for the good that is , so all we can do is hope the high pressure we have at the minute holds untill after Sunday 6ish.

I also see the Notam this year dosn`t include anything for Friday , the last few years thay have always Notam`ed the Friday for  a practise day , so don`t know if anything will be about this year on Friday or not.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 31, 2010, 11:39:56 PM
Noticed on the offical Portrush Airshow site there is a video which I assume is a TV ad.
 
It mentions over 20 aircraft displaying each day and features the Royal Air Force and Royal Navy. ???
 
Maybe someone could tell us what Royal Navy aircraft are taking part ? ,as there are none in the offical line-up,and we have been told no helicopters this year.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: greglloyd on September 01, 2010, 07:33:23 AM
re: Reds

I'm guessing it may be similar to the Newcastle event? (i.e. The display is at the same time - 5:30pm, suggesting that they may arrive at Aldergrove at approx 3:30pm. They appear to usually arrive at the temp base airport 2 hours before a display?)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: redpaul on September 01, 2010, 07:55:44 AM
re: Reds

I'm guessing it may be similar to the Newcastle event? (i.e. The display is at the same time - 5:30pm, suggesting that they may arrive at Aldergrove at approx 3:30pm. They appear to usually arrive at the temp base airport 2 hours before a display?)

I thought the Reds we're opening the show?

Paul
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Merlin on September 01, 2010, 10:02:50 AM
re: Reds

I'm guessing it may be similar to the Newcastle event? (i.e. The display is at the same time - 5:30pm, suggesting that they may arrive at Aldergrove at approx 3:30pm. They appear to usually arrive at the temp base airport 2 hours before a display?)

I thought the Reds we're opening the show?

Paul

If they were you could guarantee that two-thirds of the crowd will leave as soon as the display was over. Having them close out the Saturday would ensure that people will come along for some/all of the day.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on September 01, 2010, 11:08:54 AM
I wonder if we will get any aircraft have a wee look at portrush today. I think last year the eurofighter flew over for a recon flight.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Xair on September 01, 2010, 12:15:14 PM
Quote
I wonder if we will get any aircraft have a wee look at portrush today. I think last year the eurofighter flew over for a recon flight
Is there must happening up on the coast at the minute String. I'm hopping to go up on Friday morning and see if there is any practicing etc.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: CanonJohns40d on September 01, 2010, 12:15:48 PM
Hi Approx 30 minutes ago 11.40ish reports of fast jet over Bangor heading towards Aldergrove???
 
My wife phoned me here in work to tell me but I was at a meeting; asleep at the time i heared nothing here in Central Belfast.
 
John
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on September 01, 2010, 12:30:49 PM
Hi Approx 30 minutes ago 11.40ish reports of fast jet over Bangor heading towards Aldergrove???
 
My wife phoned me here in work to tell me but I was at a meeting; asleep at the time i heared nothing here in Central Belfast.
 
John

Was it a bored meeting  :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: CanonJohns40d on September 01, 2010, 12:53:47 PM
 :D :D :D  Very bored, lol. I see a Tornado confirmed elsewhere so my Early Warning Radar is working well even when I'm not home!!
 
John
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on September 01, 2010, 05:00:19 PM
There will be changes to display and approach freqs (new regs). Will let you know within the next couple of days

Any word on these freqs yet?I am heading up for the weekend (Fri morn),but may not have internet.

I program my scanner via the PC - Uniden 3500.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Rallyman on September 01, 2010, 06:51:57 PM
Folks i see there is now a Notam for Friday Practise ;

H3960/10 - DISPLAY REHEARSALS WI 6NM RADIUS 551222N 0064011W (PORTRUSH, N
IRELAND) . 10-09-0004 AS 1. SFC - 5000FT AMSL, 03 SEP 11:00 2010 UNTIL 03 SEP
13:00 2010. CREATED: 01 SEP 07:44 2010

I also see there is a Notam for a flypast for the BBMF at Hillsborough ;

H3986/10 - FLYPAST BY BATTLE OF BRITAIN MEMORIAL FLIGHT ACFT WI 3NM RADIUS
5428N 00605W (HILLSBOROUGH, NORTHERN IRELAND) . 10-09-0150/AS1. SFC - 2000FT
AMSL, 04 SEP 13:45 2010 UNTIL 04 SEP 14:20 2010. CREATED: 01 SEP 13:27 2010

All times are UTC

Chris

Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Rallyman on September 01, 2010, 07:12:44 PM
Anybody have the Red Arrows itinery for the day? What time are they arriving at Aldergrove, etc?

I can`t see any routings for the Reds arrival , but i`ve got the Notam for their departure ;

H4010/10 - FORMATION TRANSIT BY RED ARROWS ACFT ROUTING:
5440N 00613W (ALDERGROVE AD) 1851 HR
5436N 00622W (LOUGH NEAGH)1853 HR
5412N 00554W (NEWCASTLE N IRELAND)1858 HR
5329N 00339W (OVER THE SEA)1913 HR
5320N 00251W (LIVERPOOL AD)1918 HR
FORMATION PLANS TO TRANSIT AT 2000FT AGL. TIMINGS, HGT AND ROUTE ARE
APRX AND MAY CHANGE DUE TO WX OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS. 10-09-0138/AS 1. SFC -
3000FT AMSL, 04 SEP 18:41 2010 UNTIL 04 SEP 19:28 2010. CREATED: 01 SEP 14:00
2010

Regards
Chris
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Murphology on September 01, 2010, 07:49:36 PM
Was in Portrush this afternoon. Not much happening except a Gazelle doing a recce of the site around 2pm
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: redpaul on September 01, 2010, 10:24:19 PM
Looks like Sunday is going to have the better weather now. Clear skies.
WIll probably change daily though.

Very doubtful if I'm going now as my lift hasn't worked out  :(

Paul
 
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: RNASMU on September 01, 2010, 11:10:40 PM
Folks i see there is now a Notam for Friday Practise ;

H3960/10 - DISPLAY REHEARSALS WI 6NM RADIUS 551222N 0064011W (PORTRUSH, N
IRELAND) . 10-09-0004 AS 1. SFC - 5000FT AMSL, 03 SEP 11:00 2010 UNTIL 03 SEP
13:00 2010. CREATED: 01 SEP 07:44 2010

I also see there is a Notam for a flypast for the BBMF at Hillsborough ;

H3986/10 - FLYPAST BY BATTLE OF BRITAIN MEMORIAL FLIGHT ACFT WI 3NM RADIUS
5428N 00605W (HILLSBOROUGH, NORTHERN IRELAND) . 10-09-0150/AS1. SFC - 2000FT
AMSL, 04 SEP 13:45 2010 UNTIL 04 SEP 14:20 2010. CREATED: 01 SEP 13:27 2010

All times are UTC

Chris



Could someone explain the above to me, I'm totally ignorant of this info  ::)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on September 01, 2010, 11:40:57 PM
Roughly speaking it means that a protective area or "Display Box" is established and all other aircraft must avoid this area during the specified times,and be on the lookout for other air traffic.
 
Display rehearsals 6NM(Nautical miles) Radius of Portrush and to height of 5000ft on 3rd Sept 11.00am-1.00pm
 
Hillsborough BBMF 3NM Radius of Hillsborough and to height of 2000ft on 4th Sept 1.45pm-2.20pm
 
The BBMF flypast is only the Dakota as far as I know.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: S61N on September 02, 2010, 08:22:27 AM
 Reds  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oK-5AMSB8A#ws) practice prior to Saturdays display

 :D
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: RNASMU on September 02, 2010, 10:43:11 AM
Roughly speaking it means that a protective area or "Display Box" is established and all other aircraft must avoid this area during the specified times,and be on the lookout for other air traffic.
 
Display rehearsals 6NM(Nautical miles) Radius of Portrush and to height of 5000ft on 3rd Sept 11.00am-1.00pm
 
Hillsborough BBMF 3NM Radius of Hillsborough and to height of 2000ft on 4th Sept 1.45pm-2.20pm
 
The BBMF flypast is only the Dakota as far as I know.

Angry Turnip

Thanks for explaining
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Tango Tango Fanta on September 02, 2010, 01:58:28 PM
I've been on site for the last few days - absolutely beautiful weather.
Thise frequencies then;
City of Derry approach 123.625APP
Portrush (Holding) 130.675A/G
Portrush (display) 134.550A/G
 
Aircraft on their way.
ACC Gazelle doing a practice landing at 1530 today.
 
Media preview - Friday;
1330 Hunter
1336 Gyro
1345 SE5a
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: ToNY89 on September 02, 2010, 02:47:21 PM
anyone know when the eurofighter is due to land at aldergrove? Live quite near so i will hear it anyway, but a time would be handy so i can take a few pictures  ;D
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Xair on September 02, 2010, 07:09:02 PM
Quote
City of Derry approach 123.625APP
Portrush (Holding) 130.675A/G
Portrush (display) 134.550A/G
 

Thanks TTF, Hopefully going up tomorrow (frid)AM so might get a wee look.
 
Xair
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: RNASMU on September 02, 2010, 07:52:59 PM
Anybody have the Red Arrows itinery for the day? What time are they arriving at Aldergrove, etc?

I can`t see any routings for the Reds arrival , but i`ve got the Notam for their departure ;

H4010/10 - FORMATION TRANSIT BY RED ARROWS ACFT ROUTING:
5440N 00613W (ALDERGROVE AD) 1851 HR
5436N 00622W (LOUGH NEAGH)1853 HR
5412N 00554W (NEWCASTLE N IRELAND)1858 HR
5329N 00339W (OVER THE SEA)1913 HR
5320N 00251W (LIVERPOOL AD)1918 HR
FORMATION PLANS TO TRANSIT AT 2000FT AGL. TIMINGS, HGT AND ROUTE ARE
APRX AND MAY CHANGE DUE TO WX OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS. 10-09-0138/AS 1. SFC -
3000FT AMSL, 04 SEP 18:41 2010 UNTIL 04 SEP 19:28 2010. CREATED: 01 SEP 14:00
2010

Regards
Chris


1530 – Reds arrive ALDERGROVE

1719 – Reds depart ALDERGROVE

1730 – Reds display PORTRUSH

1801 – Reds recover ALDERGROVE

1951 – Reds depart ALDERGROVE
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: KingHenrik on September 02, 2010, 11:14:14 PM
Does anybody know what time the eurofighter will be displaying on the saturday or sunday??
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Rallyman on September 02, 2010, 11:25:40 PM
Thanks for the new freqs T T F  , that will save a bit of time.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Merlin on September 03, 2010, 08:21:35 AM
So where's everyone heading to? I'm going to Ramore Head.

Paul

Finally decided to go, after debating all week whether or not to make the trip. Loyalty won out in the end.  8)

I'll be up on on Ramore Head as well. Weather forecast is starting to look iffy again with both sun and showers predicted for tomorrow. In Portrush speak that means showers all day  :P
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: stcolin on September 03, 2010, 10:44:40 AM
Met Office now showing some promise for tomorrows weather!

Think I'll stick to West Bay, but gutted we don't have any heli's this year. My 200mm lens was perfect reach, so I'll only really be shooting the reds
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Murphology on September 03, 2010, 04:28:13 PM
Just seen what I think was a Yak pass over Larne heading NW...
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: String on September 03, 2010, 04:38:38 PM
Yeah and i just missed the euro fighter i think i was in the loo when it flew past
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: deemay on September 03, 2010, 04:47:28 PM
 >:( I missed it too, I heard it, but couldn't see it............... :'(
Does anyone know what time it is displaying tomorrow? Pleeeeeease?? :-*

I have to try and get to see it, as I have a large GSD, and it would be unwise to take him, as he would pull me off my feet hearing that one  :o
If I knew the time, I would take a quick run over to try and see it.

Thanx for any info  :-*
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Causeway74 on September 03, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
Hawk 'Victor 14' just landed after a scout up to the north coast and back. Also in at EGAA are a pair of Tucano's.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: iCardboardRobot on September 03, 2010, 04:59:07 PM
Hi folks, just back from the media preview, brilliant day. Be kind with the comments this is my first ever time taking photos of aircraft... not easy !!

(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab322/psampson59/P9030408.jpg)
(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab322/psampson59/P9030447.jpg)
(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab322/psampson59/P9030414.jpg)
(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab322/psampson59/P9030402.jpg)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: iCardboardRobot on September 03, 2010, 05:00:15 PM
one more

(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab322/psampson59/P9030419.jpg)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: ronan2505 on September 03, 2010, 05:10:46 PM
Hi Guys, Travelling from Kerry up tonight, It is my first time at Portrush airshow, where is the best spots to view etc.  P.s. Nice Pics cardboardroabot
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: staking on September 03, 2010, 06:21:47 PM
does anyone have a list of planes and times they be showing at ?
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Merlin on September 03, 2010, 06:48:54 PM
Hi Guys, Travelling from Kerry up tonight, It is my first time at Portrush airshow, where is the best spots to view etc.  P.s. Nice Pics cardboardroabot
Black Rocks or Ramore Head (my preference) are the points closest to the display line, and are on opposite sides of West Bay. Ramore Head is above the marina whereas Black Rocks is on the road leading from Portrush to Portstewart. Most of the spectators watch from the sea wall which runs the length of West Bay, however this puts you further away from the display line. Anywhere around the West Bay area will give you an unobstructed view of the aircraft.

does anyone have a list of planes and times they be showing at ?
The airshow website has a list of all participating aircraft but unfortunately not their time slots. Only one we know for sure is the Red Arrows who, as mentioned in earlier posts, are due around 5:30pm.

Official Airshow Website (http://www.niinternationalairshow.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: casper on September 03, 2010, 08:34:58 PM
Looks like I'm not going to make it tomorrow :( Here's hoping I can get on Sunday.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: redpaul on September 03, 2010, 08:40:51 PM
Looks like I'm not going to make it tomorrow :( Here's hoping I can get on Sunday.
Me neither.
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: CanonJohns40d on September 03, 2010, 08:49:32 PM
Hi I'm up tomorrow but can't stay for Sunday so lets hope the weather behaves. If you are up I hope you all, me included have a great day.
 
John
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on September 03, 2010, 09:35:02 PM
Sunday looks best weather wise and should not be so bust traffic wise as no Reds.
 
Aircraft at Bellarena according to my spies ;) so far are:
 
Antonov AN2 Bear LY-AUP
Havard G-BUKY
Yak 52 G-BXAK
RV7 EI-HUM
Miles Messenger T9738
Nord 1002 Penequin (Me-108) G-ETME
Piper Arrow G-BIAH
 
That`s it so far. :-\
Title: Re: Portrush Airshow 2010
Post by: Angry Turnip on September 03, 2010, 09:47:31 PM
Regarding the Jet displays Deemay,the jets tend to display later in the day so you might get a chance to see them.
 
Dogs and babies are a no no at airshows.
 
Never ceases to amaze me how many babies and buggies you see at the Portrush show;the mil jets will frighten the hell out of them and could even damage young kids ears without ear protection.
 
I recall doing a pushback at BFS with a Jet2 737 and one of ear protectors fell out! The noise was deafening at that was at a fairly low idle;when the pilot increased power to begin his turn to taxi,I thought my head was going to explode!  :o
 
Ear protection for yoing kids is a must when the Typhoon is about.