Northern Ireland Aviation Enthusiast's Forum
General => General Discussion => Photography => Topic started by: Merlin on March 22, 2010, 11:43:17 PM
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Don't know if anyone has been through this but if so could they give any insight regarding the following:
I submitted a pic to JetPhotos which was rejected due to "too much or too little contrast". I amended the pic accordingly and resubmitted it only for it to be rejected again. Only this time in addition to the "too much or too little contrast" they also listed "blurry" and "heat distortion" which weren't factors in the first rejection.
I decided to appeal the decision and asked why the blurry and heat distortion were now being cited when they hadn't been before. The answer I got back was that the appeal had been rejected and no answer to my query was given.
Maybe its just me but this came across as 'shut up and live with it'. If there's still a problem with the pic then I'll accept it [grudgingly] but feedback to my question would have been appreciated.
Has this happened to anyone else?
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I can understand your frustration-personally I don`t post my pics on Jetphotos or Airliners.net or similar because I think they take the enjoyment out of taking photographs.
I take pics of aircraft because I enjoy the aircraft and photography,so combining the two seems natural.
Some aviation sites are only really interested in pro or semi-pro photos,and for me that takes all the fun out of it if you have to take things so seriously.
The biggest laugh is rejection because of heat distortion-aircraft engines do tend to be rather hot things,by their very nature ::) ,also if you are lucky enough to be taking photos in some nice warm sunshine,you will get some distortion.
As far as I am concerned the heat around an aircraft`s body makes the photo more interesting in many cases-it illustrates the power needed from an engine to make flight possible.
For many it would be nice to get some shots on JetPhotos or Airliners.net,and I can see the attraction in that-I just enjoy taking photographs and sharing some of them with like minded folk who aren`t too bothered about level horizons or every shot being ultra-pin sharp.
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Like Angry mentioned, your frustration is certainly understandable. Jetphotos are really in the wrong for two reasons, firstly rejecting an imagine whilst not specifying all the rejection reasons and secondly, for not replying to a question posed during the appeal process.
With 1500+ images screened a day, unfortunately the screeners often do not select all the correct rejection categories when rejecting images. Time should really be taken to make sure all the possible rejection categories are choosen as not to confuse the members. There no point in taking a short cut and specifying only one reject reason when there may be at least 3 or 4 other reasons.
What really annoys me however is the lack of response given by the head screeners when asking a question through the appeal process. I have had it happen many times before, and it'll undoubtly happen again. Sometimes they'll simply state that you should ask the queries in the photo processing forum, other times no response will be, I guess it depends on which head screener ends up dealing with your appeal. Although rest assured that these issues have been brought up by other members and between the screeners recently.
Having said all this, I have been quite a vocal supporter for Jetphotos.net and will likely remain that way. They're still one of the largest aviation websites in the world and photos do seem to attract a lot of hits, similar to airliners.net. But as Angry suggested, they do require a bit of editing know how before upoading, something I feel is worth learning otherwise theres no real point in spending a good chunk of money on a semi professional SLR camera.
Now with regards to heat distortion mentined by Angry, to an extent I mostly agree with standards set by Jetphotos and Airliners. It's just the way I am however I simply can't stand seeing heat distortion in my photos hence I can't stand spotting in Dublin betwee 11am and 3pm when the heat distortion becomes too much. Call me fickle and laugh at me but I'd rather look at nice crisp clean photos :-X
An example of a photograph ruined by heat distortion;
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4456024954_c605940860_o.jpg)
Some heat distortion is acceptable in photos but where to draw the line that suits everybody?
Compare the above image to the heat free image below, quite a difference.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2687/4456052322_f0efab8223_o.jpg)
Sorry for the long reply! Declan, if you need a hand with any of your photos, just let us know,
Dave
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That`s a good example of when heat distortion can ruin a photo,it just depends on individual tastes.
It is interesting you mention Dublin can be a problem for heat distortion mid afternoon;I had noticed that myself,also I hate the amount of poles,signs and buses/lorries that plague the perimeter road >:(
Learning how to edit photos is important,again editing is down to individual tastes.
It is very annoying when sites seem to contradict their own guidelines or worse still,don`t even respond.