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Military Aviation => Modern Military Aircraft => Topic started by: Angry Turnip on August 20, 2011, 02:44:44 PM

Title: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 20, 2011, 02:44:44 PM

It has been reported that a Red Arrows Hawk has crashed in Bournemouth after a display-it appears the accident happened after a display,whilst recovering to Bournmouth airport.
 
Details are limited at the moment.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14602900 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14602900)

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: deemay on August 20, 2011, 02:58:23 PM

Terrible news. Lets hope the pilot is ok,
More bad news, the Vulcan has a problem, a fuel leak, and it may take 2/3 weeks to repair, not looking good for Portrush air show at moment, fingers crossed for good outcome for both, and although the Vulcan can be repaired, I sincerely hope the Red Arrows pilot is safe.

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: deemay on August 20, 2011, 03:13:06 PM

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/ (http://www.vulcantothesky.org/)

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: Xair on August 20, 2011, 03:34:06 PM

Oh Dear, Just seen footage on BBC News showing a red arrow seemingly going down. I hope the pilot managed to eject...

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 20, 2011, 05:18:19 PM

Terrible news indeed,and from looking at the video,it appears that there was no sign of a parachute or ejection.
It reminds me very much of a fatal accident involving the US Navy Blue angels a few years ago;although the Reds use G-suits unlike the Blue Angels.
It looks as if the aircraft simply hasn`t height to recover as it turns for what ever reason (possible blackout?).
I would very much doubt the accident was surviable,and the apparent body language of the other team members once landed would indicate it is likely a fatal incident.
Obviously our thoughts are with the team and their family`s-how this will affect forthcoming displays remains to be seen,but that doesn`t seem important at this stage.

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: String on August 20, 2011, 05:26:15 PM

If they decide to cancel all future displays this year nobody can complain.

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: Xair on August 20, 2011, 05:34:47 PM

Very sad, in this case it seems that no news is bad news. I really really hope i'm wrong.

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: Chalkman on August 20, 2011, 07:04:14 PM

Daily Mail reporting that he has indeed been killed in the crash.

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: TCX49 on August 20, 2011, 07:29:33 PM

yes, he has died. On everywhere now. RIP red 4 :(

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: Xair on August 20, 2011, 08:08:26 PM

Devastating news Ezyman. Is there a way for the forum to send regards to the reds and his family?
 
 RIP Red 4
 
Xair

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: casper on August 20, 2011, 09:24:55 PM

This seems to be the official Facebook page. You could probably post there.

http://www.facebook.com/RAF.redarrows (http://www.facebook.com/RAF.redarrows)

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: Xair on August 20, 2011, 09:32:51 PM

Thanks Casper,
I don't use facebook so decided to send an email.
 
redarrowspra@scampton.raf.mod.uk (redarrowspra@scampton.raf.mod.uk)
 
Xair

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: ww2ni on August 20, 2011, 09:59:56 PM

Very Sad.

Tragidies like this always put things into perspective - Per Ardua Ad Artra!!

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: TCX49 on August 20, 2011, 10:11:52 PM

Or add them on msn - redarrows_eclat@hotmail.com.

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: ToNY89 on August 21, 2011, 01:57:07 AM

very sad, RIP red 4 :(

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: Merlin on August 25, 2011, 02:08:29 PM

While it's great that the Reds have been cleared to resume flying, this would indicate that they have an understanding as to the cause of the crash.

Or at least they know it wasn't due to mechanical issues.

Title: Re: Red Arrows crash at Bournemouth
Post by: Angry Turnip on August 25, 2011, 10:42:11 PM

In my opinon I think it would be wrong to expect the Reds to return to display flying this season.
 
Some sort of a limited display as a tribute to Red 4 would be a nice gesture,but to expect the team to carry out full displays again so soon would be grossly unfair and possibly even dangerous.
 
The mental and physical strain on display pilots is tough enough at the best of times,let alone asking them to resume displays so soon after loosing a team mate.