Pakistan to get high-tech air defence system

[hassan]

Pakistan to get high-tech air defence system

By Hanif Khalid

ISLAMABAD: As per President Musharraf's directives Pakistan will acquire a high-tech air defence system next year, but it must come with transfer of technology, an official told The News.

"China and a European country have offered Pakistan High-to-Medium-Altitude Air Defence System, Low-to-Medium-Altitude Air Defence System, Medium-Altitude Air Defence System and Short-Range Air Defence System," said an official, who wanted not to be named. "The two countries have also offered to set up a project in Pakistan for manufacturing short- medium- and high-range air defence systems," he added.

The official said a former PAF chief had sent a summary to President Musharraf for the purchase of a high-altitude air defence system from a European country without transfer of technology, but the president rejected it.

"The summary has been rejected because Pakistan's adversary has MiG-25, MiG-29, SU-27 and SU-30 fighter planes which are capable of flying at an altitude of more than 25km," he added.

India has these aircraft since 2002 whereas the PAF has no effective weapon system to save major cities of the country and defence installations from any attack by such planes, the official said.

"Had the organisations engaged in developing nuclear-capable missiles indigenously been tasked with the development of a system to overcome this shortcoming, the country would have until now achieved the capability of hitting planes at an altitude of 25-29 kilometres," he remarked. "But no attention has been paid towards this aspect of the country's air defence capability."

The official said that Pakistan has radars that can detect aircraft flying at an altitude of 25-29 kilometres but the country still lacks a weapon system to hit such planes. He said the country needs to install at least one battery of an ultra-modern air defence system on four sides of major cities or military installations for security.

According to the official, one battery of such a defence system would comprise 16 vehicles, including two radar carriers, six missile launching vehicles and six support vehicles and thus each battery would cost $40-50 million.

A short-range air defence system can shoot down an enemy plane up to five kilometres and medium-range system is capable of hitting and attacking aircraft up to 25 kilometres while a high-range air defence system can hit an enemy plane at a distance of 90 kilometres, elaborated the official.
Link: http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=5036
   India is going to get PAC-3 well may be  they get.lets see Pakistan Move.they also pitched Russia now to allow RD-33 Engines for JF-17 Thunder looks like blocks are changing now.

[casper]

one battery of such a defence system would comprise 16 vehicles, including two radar carriers, six missile launching vehicles and six support vehicles and thus each battery would cost $40-50 million.

That package would probably be enough to protect one city. I wonder how many they will be buying? Would it not be better to invest in a number of new fighters to counter the Migs & Sukhoi that the IAF has?

China and a European country

Wonder who the European country is?

[hassan]

it will cover major cities and ports.but numbers will be large and PAF is buying J-10/and joint fighter JF-17 ..awacs from sweden and france/Italy have srong defence relation with Pakistan they are pushing hard to Pakistan Army for thier system.but main defence will be remain depends on Fighter aircraft and PAF is specialty in Interception.but things like Nuclear reactors can't afford to be risked.it will be great addition.but one thing that really make me laugh India and Pakistan are next to eachother anything will be INSTANT if we think like that sam system are not effective even PAC-3 can't stop BMs from Pakistan or cruise missiles.
                but first thing i hope thier will be no war but to make sure their is no war one needs to be strong.India really buying alot of stuff so main threat to PAF is only Su-30 and j-10 will equalize it and rest of the part will be played by Great piolts of PAF.

[casper]

main threat to PAF is only Su-30 and j-10 will equalize it and rest of the part will be played by Great piolts of PAF.

I agree but alot also has to do with the Command & Control infrastructure. A good infrastructure and poor pilots/equipment can even out a battlefield if the opposition has good pilots/equipment but a poor infrastructure.

i hope thier will be no war but to make sure their is no war one needs to be strong

Again I agree. I think we are unusual in that we have an interest in equipment that we hope is never used for it's designed purpose

[hassan]

yep but politics is really dirty everywhere not in Asia only everywhere its really dirty....if you have no power you can't have peace....alot of examples in the world.

[casper]

if you have no power you can't have peace....alot of examples in the world.

Prime example would be Germany during the Cold War. Probably the only reason it wasn't invaded by the Soviet Pac was the fact that there were so many weapons (nuclear & conventional) pointing back.

[hassan]

indeed have a look at leabnon/iraq/Afghansitan.. what if they got really weapons.sams strong AF.would america/nato forces dare to invade?i really doubt that thing.and now see leabnon with hamas Isreal got run from leabnon this time.
  back to topic.
                 SAM networks are more strong than ABM systems.and i think its more cheap and effective against any target but for them you need air superiority..

[casper]

i think its more cheap and effective against any target but for them you need air superiority

True. I wonder what type of Wild Weasel capability the IAF has? The Jaguar, Mig-23 & 27 aren't dedicated Wild Weasel. Do they have anything like this in service?

[hassan]

MIGs are nothing then dead coffins. mig-27 shot down by ANZA MK-2 manpad missile.in kargil conflict.they only got SU-30s and its never proved in battel like F-16 and other jets.one more thing its still airshow plance.no offence though.but radar range give its psychological edge.but i am pretty sure they still remember our piolts.
            but no doubt india got edge in NAVY.they can block our sea routes. but after babur cruise missile everything is changed really.
            they have bg number of migs which should be replace before PAF got thunders/F-16 and J-10   else its gonna hard for india to counter PAF.by number they are every time have edge but quality they will lost.if you see past and future planning PAF top Brass everytime played very nice so hope for good.
              and yes about army they can't hold long.remember babur is currently land based missile means army will use it in war if its broken in near future which is almost impossible.

[casper]

they have bg number of migs

I have always wondered if it is better to buy less of the more expensive aircraft or more of the less expensive ones. Would a more capable airforce not get overwhelmed if they are outnumbered by a fair margin?

[hassan]

if one got one squardon of F-22 and one got 4 squardons of mig-21  .
             migs will unable to know from where they got hit and what hit them.balance is necessary no doubt about that.but numbers are not good everytime.AF war mostly reely on tech.advance radar/missile etc .upto now india went for numbers instead of quality.now they got SU no doubt its great plane but they still got to replace migs.with what?mig series again?typhoon?F-18.
                        twin engine planes are really hard to handle for ground staff and its more more expensive then planes like F-16 etc.