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Shorts Tucano production
« on: June 28, 2017, 08:38:34 AM »
Not much info on this so I've tried to piece it together from fragments.  Any additional input very welcome.

Shorts S.312 Tucano construction numbers don't start with the traditional 'SH' for Shorts-Harland.  Instead they were built by Shorlac, Shorts Light Aircraft, a subsidiary created in 1979 for the purpose of license-building the Piper PA-38 Tomahawk in the old MU building at Sydenham. 

The advantage of using Shorlac for the Tucano was that it had its own labour & union agreements.

Shorts had sales rights in 'traditionally RAF-orientated nations' whilst EMBRAER reserved South America and some other named states.  The rest of the World was free competition between the two.



The prototype S.312-standard aircraft, PP-ZTC / G-14-007 / G-BTUC, was built by EMBRAER as EMB-312G cn 312007 and transferred to Shorts.  Later upgraded with the production-standard -12B engine provided by Garrett in mid-1986, from a pre-certification batch.  One engine also went to EMBRAER which continued to tinker with the Garrett-engined Tucano until the early 1990s.

The first ten Tucanos delivered to the RAF were also built by EMBRAER but completed in Belfast, being given Shorlac cns starting thusly:

ZF135 S001/T1

The S_ element indicated the incrementing Shorlac sequence, the second element T_ indicated the delivery in the T-contract ( RAF ) whilst Kuwait and Kenya were in the E-contract ( Export? ) starting with S033 and scattered through the sequence.

I don't have a full list of cns yet.  Update: thanks to Mr Gadwall I do now, and have corrected the previous supposition regarding S033. It was not the destroyed airframe but the first export, S033/E1. Subsequently crashed off Rathlin Island in February 1990 on stores-separation trials, killing Shorts test pilot Allan Deacon.

http://www.ukserials.com/prodlists.php?type=1107

From that list S045 appears to have been the bomb-damaged airframe, not delivered to the RAF.
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Re: Shorts Tucano production
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2017, 10:49:42 AM »
I don't remember the serial of the aircraft that crashed from the Kenyan order but it was off Rathlin and Alan Deacon was killed after becoming entangled in his parachute in the water.

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Re: Shorts Tucano production
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2017, 05:51:07 PM »
I recall that accident-awful thing to happen. :(

Interesting to note how many Tucano`s have escaped to the USof A-that`s where the money is to fly them I suppose.
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Re: Shorts Tucano production
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2017, 08:40:18 PM »
A few other odds and ends:

Embraer & Shorts tweaked the PT6A-25C to try to meet the 240 knots low-level requirement, but even at 850 shp it wasn't enough hence the switch to the TPE331 ( plus Garrett offsets for UK companies ).  Curiously the RAF evaluation was between the PC-9 and the PT6A Tucano, not the Garrett-engined Tucano!

Shorts delivered 130 Tucanos to the RAF under a fixed-price contract of £125 million, which was £60 million below initial MoD projection. 15 options were booked but not executed.  Allegedly the BAe / Pilatus final-offer price was even lower - it's easy to forget that at that time the PC-9 wasn't certain to be a success, with just a handful of minor orders received.

There were also two Tucano fuselages delivered to the RAF as procedures trainers, they don't seem to have been allocated cns.

Ferranti delivered five projected-display four-axis simulators to the RAF under a separate contract, and another one to Kuwait.


Original Shorts projections were for 130 exports.. they managed 28.

Shorts was invited to tender in the Australian trainer competition in 1985 but pulled-out when it saw the rough-field requirements.  A beefed-up PC-9 won it.

In 1993 Pilatus hugely undercut Shorts to win the Korean competition despite not meeting the external-stores requirements due to Swiss arms-export restrictions.



130 + 28 gives 158, two short of the total production.  S033/E1 lost in crash was replaced, and S045/T42 was not delivered to the RAF but was repaired ended-up as N312RS somehow.
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Re: Shorts Tucano production
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 11:07:10 PM »
Just a pic of dad with zf141 having landed at a bleak sydenham having spent weeks displaying the tucano at the dubai air show.

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Re: Shorts Tucano production
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 09:31:06 AM »
They look foundered!   Logo under the cockpit looks like the Central Flying School pennant. 

S007/T7 ZF141 widely reported as sold to the USA in 2007 but doesn't seem to have received an N-reg so I fear it was broken for spares.



On the subject of USA Tucanos, S034/T33 N208PZ ex-ZF208 is up for sale!

https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1458183/1989-shorts-tucano-mk1

Shame about the faux-HDR photos but I do like the customised headrest...

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Re: Shorts Tucano production
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 08:40:49 PM »
I will ask why it had that marking next time I see him. maybe he can fill in a few blanks.