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Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« on: August 22, 2015, 01:59:44 PM »
A Hunter has gone down at Shoreham today. :(  Early reports say it crashed onto the road, Pilot has been pulled from wreckage according to some reports, so he may not have gotten out in time.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/22/hawker-hunter-plane-crash-shoreham-air-show-reports

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2015, 02:22:31 PM »
The newsflash from Sky News stated:

"A World War Two Hawker Hunter plane has crashed..."

Groan  ::)

A five second fact check is clearly beyond some people.

No word on the pilot so far.
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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2015, 02:25:43 PM »
Doesn`t sound good if the pilot was unable to eject,apprently it was performing a loop manoeuvre,but did not have time/space to recover. :'(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34027260

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2015, 02:30:50 PM »
Don't know if its due to the crash but the Shoreham Airshow website is currently down.

A quick scan of the running order on their FB page doesn't show a Hunter, but it isn't a complete list apparently.

Wonder was it a last minute replacement/addition?
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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2015, 02:33:03 PM »
WV372 T7 was on the list.

Not liking the BBC mentioning "several" casualties.

Edit:-  Aircraft or aircraft parts hit vehicles before impact and there are casualties on the ground.  This is not good.
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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2015, 02:35:23 PM »
WV372 T7 was on the list.

Not liking the BBC mentioning "several" casualties.

Yeah, the post I was looking at was only referring to 'key timings'.

Sky News saying the plane came down on a main road and hit several cars.

Doesn't sound good.
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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2015, 02:39:05 PM »
The 'planes tv' coverage is very worrying if it hit parallel to a road full of traffic?

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2015, 02:52:41 PM »
G-BXFI WV372 displayed at Bray last month,sounds like a dreadful accident. :'(

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2015, 03:28:14 PM »
Just watched the Sky News coverage and an eye witness said it was a 2 seat Hawker Hunter and it came down at a set of traffic lights on the main A27 road after failing to complete a loop.

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2015, 03:33:33 PM »
Just watched the Sky News coverage and an eye witness said it was a 2 seat Hawker Hunter and it came down at a set of traffic lights on the main A27 road after failing to complete a loop.

Sky also reported it as a WWII jet.

Pilot is apparently recovering in hospital and was pulled from the planes wreckage, so no ejection. Though there are mixed reports still on that.

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2015, 03:41:02 PM »
Taken from AirLive.net.

Looks to be clearest view so far of what happened.

https://youtu.be/pvHplYmh2f8

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2015, 04:12:33 PM »
Is this one of the midairs?

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2015, 04:14:16 PM »
Is this one of the midairs?

Not officially, although it's flown with/for them on occasion (I think).
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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2015, 04:15:54 PM »
Is this one of the midairs?

No, but it was on lease to them last year when XL600 was out of action. Both Mid Air Squadron Hunters, along with their Canberra have been grounded for 2015 and will be back in the air next year hopefully.

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2015, 04:25:31 PM »
I'd be a tad worried about whether this incident will affect what we see next year generally.

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2015, 04:28:01 PM »
From that video it looks as if it stalled.
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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2015, 04:44:04 PM »
Just on Beeb, seven confirmed dead.

Bloody hell!

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2015, 04:55:46 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2015, 05:20:59 PM »
Just on Beeb, seven confirmed dead.

Bloody hell!

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Apparently the media are falling over themselves to get that pic  :(
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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2015, 05:59:32 PM »
I was surprised The Blades did their display after what had happened-it was pretty obvious there was going to be fatalities in the accident-I note the Vulcan did one pass,then departed.
Not an easy call to make ,and its down to the organisers and pilots how they feel,but I would have thought with the airshow community being as close as it is,scrubbing the flying would have been the best and most respectful option.

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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2015, 06:17:13 PM »
My thoughts are with the dead and their loved ones and those injured, especially those who suffered burns in this tragic incident.
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2015, 06:33:32 PM »
I was surprised The Blades did their display after what had happened-it was pretty obvious there was going to be fatalities in the accident-I note the Vulcan did one pass,then departed.
Not an easy call to make ,and its down to the organisers and pilots how they feel,but I would have thought with the airshow community being as close as it is,scrubbing the flying would have been the best and most respectful option.

Cancelling events which have very large crowds in attendance can be problematic in itself. Particularly if the road you need to get them out on is closed.  Give them something to look at and you get time to think about it.
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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2015, 06:46:40 PM »
Like I said,there is no easy answer in a situation like this-I believe the show was stopped after a little while.

It`s a dreadful situation,and I really feel for the families of those who have died and the injured.

It does appear in the video`s that the aircraft suffered some sort of stall,or possible power loss,doubtless there will be some repercussions over this accident.

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2015, 06:54:32 PM »
Like I said,there is no easy answer in a situation like this-I believe the show was stopped after a little while.

It`s a dreadful situation,and I really feel for the families of those who have died and the injured.

It does appear in the video`s that the aircraft suffered some sort of stall,or possible power loss,doubtless there will be some repercussions over this accident.

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Re: Hawker Hunter crash at Shoreham
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2015, 07:07:06 PM »
Very true indeed.  The F700's or civilian equivalent will be gone through with a fine toothcomb, as will the pilot's log, medical, etc. 

RIP the unfortunates that passed away and speedy, full recovery to the injured.